'ranger' was a trim level back then, dropped when 'ranger' became a truck on its own.

btw - have another real world example of a ford missive: 1993 ranger, 2wd, 4.0 EFI, 5spd, shortbed, 3.55 axle, limited slip.

exist or not?

 

I also wanted to point out: the manual brakes and the 'HD' brake option for the F100 used the same caliper. which means the same knuckle, and the same rotor, which means power brakes in an F100 does not strictly mean 4.5 wheels with a smaller rotor.

See what I mean about 'always' and 'never'. I bet if we took a poll, we could find a significant portion of the older ford truck owners here with options not in the 'catalog' or disallowed by body/rating

 

OK OK
So Jimmy (the op) might have another Johnny Cash special here.
Can we get back to helping him here ??

 

Ranger package ran 65-82.

 

I'm the 7th oldest member of FTE and I've owned the same truck longer than anyone else here has. 1965 F100 purchased new in March 1965.

You are making statements of facts, but where do these facts come from?

What references do you have? Do you have the truck parts catalog? Dealer Facts Books?

I have the parts catalogs, and when I post part numbers, and other info, I also can post references, which anyone with a parts catalog can verify.

Without a catalog, a trip to a local dealers parts department will verify the info.

There were lots of accessories that were not listed in sales brochures, or accessory brochures.

Salesmen had Facts Books, parts departments had Accessory Catalogs that listed dozens of things many peeps (especially here on FTE) never even heard of.

 

Ok,I see i've been missing out on alot.A little bit on my truck since I noticed it's been mentioned. 80 F100,w/5.5 wheels,C6,300 I6,9"w/2.75:1 ratio,and swiss cheese frame.Very light truck.

Anyways,I'm a dummy when it comes to the mechanical identification aspects of ford trucks,so how does one go about telling wether or not a truck has power brakes?

 

the catalog?

Ok, E0TZ2V120BRM (and 121) are for the HD power, and the manual. It is now remaned as BRC86RM (and 87) using the new parts numbering scheme.

I cant get you the part number for the motorcraft 4700lb power brake caliper cuz ford no longer makes it OR remans it, but I can get it from Cardone (chinese), AC Delco, Raybestos, Kelsey Hayes (who is only selling until depleted) if that would suffice?

I can get you the LMC, advance, autoz and napa numbers but they all 4 point to the same thing as I stated above.

Based on this, concerning brakes, can we say never or always?

 

Well, if you are keeping score on this one, I think we have it figured out.
All f100's and f150's, 1980 and 1981 had the swiss cheese frame. They did away with it in 1982. This seems to jive with what everyone is saying so far.

To add another source for engine info, I went to the junkyard site Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market.

For a 1980 F100, they list the 300 six(vin E) and the 302(vin F).

For a 1981 F100, they list the 300 six(vin E), the 255 v8(vin D) and the 302(vin F)

For a 1982 F100, they list the 300 six(vin E), the 255 v8(vin D), the 302(vin F) and the 232 3.8 v6(vin 3)

For a 1983 F100, they list the 300 six(vin Y), the 302(vin F) and the 232 3.8 v6(vin 3)

 

Wow.What was I thinking? Power Brake booster.Duh.Pay no attention to that last post.

 

There is exactly one power brake booster listed for all 1980/83 F100's: EOTZ2005A / Obsolete / The FoMoCo dealer parts locater system shows that no Ford dealer has any.

Obsolete parts dealer Green Sales Co (greensalescompany.com) in Cincinnati OH has one NOS: 800-543-4959

Green Sales also has a "help" line: 513-731-3304. The entire staff are composed of ex-Ford partsmen. They have all the parts catalogs, too.

Only one master cylinder is listed for this booster: D7TZ2140C / Obsolete =

Kinsel L/M in Beaumont TX has one NOS = 800-816-2894 / Green Sales has one NOS.

Info source: 1980/89 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog / 1991 Revision / Power Brake Booster and Master Cylinder Model Application Chart / Section 23.1 / Page 1 / Ford Microfiche slide number: LT1 ~ 4-67.

 

I can buy that regarding the swiss cheese.

to make things more complicated, I went to rock auto and asked what they had:

80 4.9-E, 5.0-F, 460-4bbl-L (was there a race truck option? I do know there were late 70's f150's with 460-4bbls)
81 4.2D, 4.9E, 5.0F, 5.8G (no mention of the 2bbl Y)
82 3.8-3, 4.2-D, 4.9-E, 4.9 LPG fuel - 9, 5.0F
83 3.8-3, 4.9-Y (1bbl), 5.0 F

Then Autozone:

80 - E, F and G (351M in 1% of trucks)
81 - D, E, F and G (also listed as 351M)
82 - 3, D, E, 9 and F
83 - 3, Y, F and G (this time a 351W)

then advance auto:

80 - E and F only
81 same, but no mention whose 351 the G is
82 - same
83 - 3, Y, F

Clearly there are some patterns, but these parts stores, which account for a LOT, have other engines listed. Canadian? Mexican? My own F100 was an Eh-sayer and it had made a diff on carb kits and feedback EGR valves

then I went to LMC, carb section, according to them, in 1981 all F series trucks under 8500lb with the auto, had the option of a 351M with a motorcraft 2150 carb.

Are the waters muddy enuf now?

 

Just because some aftermarket source says it may be, doesn't make it so. I have shop manuals and brochures 80-86, and I own/have owned an 80, 81 and 82 F100. Ford did not offer the F100 in the North American market with an engine larger than a 302 for emissions reasons(In other markets, they did very different things, a 351 in an early 80's Aussie built truck would have been a Clevleand for example.) It also did not come in 4wd after 1977.
In my experience, manual brake F100's have standard F150 brake components, while the power brake trucks have the smaller stuff and 4.5" bolt pattern.

As for the 351M/400, the M was still available until 82, they started phasing in the W at some point in 81. The 400 soldiered on until the end of 82, when it was replaced by the newly re-introduced 460(I think Vans may not have dropped the 460 for 80-82 like the trucks did) which was offered in a 4x4 and with a manual for the first time.

As for the original poster, I think your truck may have had the cab changed at some point in it's life. Regardless, if your truck has the normal F150 wheel bolt pattern of 5x5.5", suspension and brake components are interchangeable with a 2wd F150 of the same year. Sheetmetal and interiors are identical and interchangeable across the entire F100-F350 line.

 

I own a mutt of a truck then - I don't mind as its a very, very clean and tidy mutt, structurally and cosmetically so a good base for customising (which is why I bought it).

Only one thing, it states longbed yet is a shortbed. That would mean a number of things that I can think of -

VIN fraud?

Cab swap?

Reshell?

Any likelihood that it being possibly ex forces could explain so many seeming anomilies(sp)?

 

The Ranger was actually an F Series trim level before the name was assigned to the compact truck. Just like Explorer was an F Series, then an SUV.

 

Here's the specs of my 1980 F100.

302, C6, 9"w/2.75 gearing, no power brakes, swiss cheese frame, 5.5 bolt pattern.