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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 01:18 PM
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Hi-End Steering box

I'm hearing a rattle going over bumps, and after replacing and tapping on everything in the front end, it seems when i tap on the pitman arm, I hear the same rattle. Anyone know if there is any box out there that is better than the stock from Ford?
 
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Sure your hubs aren't causing the noise?
 
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 12:20 AM
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yep. replaced both 2 months ago.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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Are you sure the pitman arm isn't loose? Steering boxes don't usually rattle AND work at the same time
 
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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seems like its tight. I'll double check it. The shaft its attached to seems to be the source of the noise
 
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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It's weird that anything inside the box would rattle, it's drowned in steering fluid.

Is it a rattle, or a "ping" ?
 
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 10:04 AM
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a rattle. like a baby rattle made of metal.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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just checked. def the shaft the pitman arm is attached to. There looks like some kind of adjustment bolt on the top center of the box. Looks like its in-line with the shaft. I put a socket on it, and tried to gently crank on it. It feels tight, but I don't want to muscle it and really F it up.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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Don't play with that adjustment. It sets the mesh between the input shaft and the output shaft (forget the terms for the gears right now).

If you tighten it up too much, it'll bind - at the WORST time. And it'll bind up more as it warms up.

Loosen the lock nut, and crank down on the bolt in 1/4 turn increments.

Is there any play in the box itself, as in, with the engine running, turn the steering wheel back and forth, how much can you turn the wheel before the pitman arm starts to move?
 
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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no play turning the steering wheel.

Ahh. I didn't see that the shaft had a allen hole. So loosen the big ole lock nut holding the pitman arm on, then stick an allen wrench in and crank that in 1/4 turns...until....what the rattle stops I guess.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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Do you know what size that lock nut is? That thing is huge! I have to go to Sears and get the right size.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by btdigital
no play turning the steering wheel.

Ahh. I didn't see that the shaft had a allen hole. So loosen the big ole lock nut holding the pitman arm on, then stick an allen wrench in and crank that in 1/4 turns...until....what the rattle stops I guess.
If there's no play, there's no reason to play with the adjustment (pun intended)

That rattle is very weird... something else is jingling maybe?
 
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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nope. I can feel the the movement when I grab the tie rod and shake it. Its very very slight, but enough to make noise tapping on it with a rubber mallet, or driving. All the tie rods have been replaced, just about everything in the front end has been replaced. That shaft is where the rattle is coming from, I'm sure of it.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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Try cranking down on the adjustment. Just keep track of how much you tighten it down, and if it never cures the rattle, back it out to the original position.

AND - if you do tighten it down and it helps the rattle, make sure it doesn't bind going lock-to-lock, both cold and hot.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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The top adjustment you told me not to mess with? I'll have to wait until Sunday for that. I have gig's thru saturday, and can't afford any down time if I end up F'ing it up.
 
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