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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 6686L
Getting cited for going 85 mph is a jail-able offense in many jurisdictions; will result, in addition, in your vehicle being impounded and / or jail time in some.
Originally Posted by FordCrusherGT
Where, a 15 mph school zone? Having gotten cited for 85+ mph in a number of jurisdictions, I've merely been required to donate to the donut fund. I haven't seen a single instance where, on an interstate in a 65 mph zone, you can get jailed and have your vehicle impounded for 85 mph. Doesn't mean they don't exist, just means I haven't encountered them. Either way, I don't see how that relates to the laws of physics.
Agreed... I have a speeding ticket for 110 in a 55, and the only thing that happened was a 200 dollar donation to said fund, and 3 points on my license. Believe it or not, next time around when my insurance renewed, it actually went down.

686, believe it or not, there are places in the US where 85 might get you rear-ended or shot... Take a trip down to Phoenix some time...
 
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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hey you guys - stop picking on me...one cant be BOTH good lookin AND smart...!
 
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Fosters
......rear-ended or shot... Take a trip down to Phoenix some time...
I am not allowed to drive in southern Arizona (I am an English-speaking Anglo..!)

 
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 6686L
...one cant be BOTH good lookin AND smart...!
And in your case; EITHER!

While I can understand that the V10 (or any engine) has a "sweet spot" and that the aerodynamic profile probably also has a sweet spot to where the low pressure up front is enough to actually push air up and over reducing drag a bit even though aerodynamic drag SQUARES at speed and probably at a certain speed the tires increase in diameter enough due to centripetal force to help reduce the foot print a tad, I still find it hard to wrap my head around the notion that the faster you go the better the mileage.

Many folks have claimed it but I, personally, have never seen it in either of my Excursions. Maybe I'll go try this weekend on a certain flat section of road here.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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we call it a lie-o-meter for a reason....
 
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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Lower RPMs doesnt always mean better fuel economy. (don't know about this case, just a general statement) The old cars that used to have an economy meter on the dash used engine vacuum to find the best economy. It did not equate to the lowest rpm. I used a vacuum guage on my 68 to get better economy and it worked.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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I've never heard about using a vaccum gauge to find economy, whats the name of the game?

how do you do it?
 
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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With all the computer controlled fuel injection, I am not sure if it would help with these new engines, but on old carburator engines you would just run a normal vacuum gauge off your manifold. Keep the vacuum at the highest pressure and you would get your best milage. In regards to this thread, I was only mentioning it to say that there is a "sweet spot" for milage and it is not always at the lowest rpm.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Monsta
I still find it hard to wrap my head around the notion that the faster you go the better the mileage.

Many folks have claimed it but I, personally, have never seen it in either of my Excursions. Maybe I'll go try this weekend on a certain flat section of road here.
Easy way to test it; while idling down in drive, reset the mpg-o-meter thing, it'll be in like the 7s or so I think... then reset it while you're on cruise control at 50-60mph... it'll be way better

I donno about the 60 vs 80 thing, but it is possible to get better MPG going faster than slower

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And in your case; EITHER!
Luckily, they can fix looks nowadays relatively easy... now for the other part...
 
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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My Scan Gauge II will display instantaneous MPG. I'll just use that.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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Keep resetting fast enough and you have an instant gauge as well! lol

I am having trouble wrapping my brain around this faster = better fuel economy thing as well, thats why I posted up for other opinions. Now that I see others have noticed teh same, it intrigues me quite a bit more.

More fuel for the fire, air temps were around 55 degrees during that trip. Seems these trucks make a very noticable amount of extra power at cooler temps then warm. Thats true for pretty much any motor I know, my old olds 307 was the same way, just this V10 does it more so then any other motor I have owned. Maybe its due to the displacement?
 
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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Yeah, all motors are like that.
My 2004 GTO is very noticable. In cold air I can cut 3 tenths off my 1/4 times verses 90 degree humid summer days.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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Of course, engines prefer cooler denser air.
 
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