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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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The way i see it, ford has to have a large engine to compete with the large engines from the other manufacturer's. That engine would be the 5.4. Comparing the 5.4 against anything less would be unfair to the competition, and ford handles the competition just fine, even though its a tad underpowered compared to the rest of them. They seem to make it up though in other places.

Sure would be nice to have the top truck, with the most power/tq though
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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why do they put the 6.0 chevy in there alongside the 5.4, 5.7, 5.7 litre engines?? why do they put the 5.3 chevy alongside the 4.6?? thats no where near comparing apples with apples.

good article though, i continue to believe the F150 is the one to beat!!
The 2009 Silverado has the highest towing rating when equipped with the 6.0-L V-8 - 10,700 pounds. The 6.2-L Silverado tows "only" 10,600 pounds. The table in the story compares *max* tow ratings for various half-ton pickups.

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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeputc
The 2009 Silverado has the highest towing rating when equipped with the 6.0-L V-8 - 10,700 pounds. The 6.2-L Silverado tows "only" 10,600 pounds. The table in the story compares *max* tow ratings for various half-ton pickups.

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Unless 11,300# somehow is less than 10,700#, the F150 out tows the chebby....according to the stats in the review...
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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Right. The F-150 has highest tow rating.

The question was, for the Silverado, why did we list the 6.0-L V-8 and not the 6.2-L V-8? The answer is because the Silverado tows most when it has the 6.0-L V-8.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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i think he was saying the chevy trucks have the highest rating with the 6.0l not the 6.2, but not highest overall
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 12:50 PM
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why is it that a more poweful engine pulls less weight???
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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Good question. Max towing is determined by more than just engine ratings. It's the sum capability of components like frame, suspension and powertrain. I think the F-150's frame makes up a big part of why it can tow so much.

Don't underestimate manufacturer's discretion, either.

Max towing for the 2006 F-150 was 9,900-lbs. By 2008 it was 11,000-lbs. Same truck. Same engine. Same frame. There was no component change. Ford determined the F-150 could tow more.

GM or Toyota could probably raise their ratings too, but don't. You'd have to ask them why.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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Can be any number of reasons. Could be doubts as to whether the transmission can handle the stress of more power combined with heavier payload...could be problems keeping that many HP cool on hills...could be the Vortec Max package includes options, such as axle ratios and configurations that aren't available with the 6.2...

One thing's for sure, though...there IS a reason....
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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One other reason. There are no standards for determining max tow ratings. Each manufacturer does their own testing. The manufacturers have been working with SAE to put standards in place. That might change some tow ratings.

PickupTruck.Com - SAE, OEMs, Trailer, and Hitch Companies Work to Define Standards for Tow Testing

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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by preppypyro
The way i see it, ford has to have a large engine to compete with the large engines from the other manufacturer's. That engine would be the 5.4. Comparing the 5.4 against anything less would be unfair to the competition, and ford handles the competition just fine, even though its a tad underpowered compared to the rest of them. They seem to make it up though in other places.

Sure would be nice to have the top truck, with the most power/tq though
I'm still hoping that if the 6.2 comes out for the SDs that it gets added as an option to the F150s. Either that or if the diesel ever comes out that it's very tunable.

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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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If you look through the order guide you will notice that the truck comes with the option of 3.15, 3.31, 3.55, and 3.73 read end. the only thing dropped was the 4.10. the 3.73 is the rear end that comes with the max trailer tow package. <http//www.sunrisefordfleet.com/pdf_files/order_guides/2009/2009%20f-150%20order%20Guide.pdf>
Right the 4.10 is no longer needed because they lowered the ratio in the trans and got a higher tow rating and a stronger rear end and lower rpm in OD out of it. all good things .
There is more to a tow rating than Engine power.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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Smallest engine, lowest HP clearly doesn't mean squat. Max TQ is right on par with the larger engines and when mated to Ford's stout gears and awesome tranny, The F-150 clearly presents itself as the most capable work truck.

To hell with 1/4 mile speeds and all that crap. Buy a Rousch racing kit if speed is that important.

Tim
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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i think the chevy 6.2 is only available with the 3.42 and 6.0l i think 4.10 that might be the reason who knows, and if they do come out with industry standard tow ratings i hope its not just acceleration and braking tests, but also some king sway control test
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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i think the chevy 6.2 is only available with the 3.42 and 6.0l i think 4.10 that might be the reason who knows, and if they do come out with industry standard tow ratings i hope its not just acceleration and braking tests, but also some king sway control test


Because the Higher H.P 6.2 would bust up that weak G.M rear axle with the 4.10 , they use the 3.42 with that huge pinion to help it live.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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i dont think 36 hp and 42 tq is gonna bust the axle prob for mpg, but with chevys 4.04 first gear more then enough axle with that engine
 
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