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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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Ok, so I finally replaced my old '79 F150 with an '01 F250 CrewCab, shortbed with the 7.3 Diesel. I was looking to put an 8' Boss plow on it but when I contacted them (Boss), they told me that they don't have a listing for my truck/engine combination because Ford says it would overload the front axle. Now I know the Diesel is heavy but come on, I find that a little hard to believe. Western, Fisher, and Meyer all list anything from 7.5' to 8.5' plows. Does anyone know what the actual remaining weight is for my front axle? I did chip in for the extended warranty so I don't want to give Ford any excuse to back out on work that may need to be done down the road, but I also need a plow.

Also, anyone else have an 8' or larger plow on one of these? If so what brand and type.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Overloaded

Believe it or not, the truck WILL be overloaded with a decent sized plow on it. That's why you were never able to order the plow package with a diesel until Ford changed the suspension in 2005. However, that does not mean that YOU cannot put a plow on it. I see 99-04 diesels with plows on them all the time. Just be aware that the truck was not made for it. It would also help if you installed Code "X" front springs on it and ran a few hundred pounds of ballast in the rear.


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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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I have a 01 with a Boss 8'2 vee plow on the front of my Diesel and yes I do heve the code x springs on it The plow only weighs about 800 my old western vee weighed close to 1000 so yes you can put a plow on a deisel
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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Put what ever you wnat on there, the truck will handle it. I had a plow on my 2000,2001 and now my 06 so I think you will be ok.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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My 03 F350,6.0 has a 8' Fisher HD and has since it was new. No big deal.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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Ford thinks you will overload the front axle plowing because they are afraid you will have 4 people riding in the crew cab with you while you plow. Leave your friends at home and that truck will handle an 8' or 8.5' plow.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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I ran a Blizzard 810 which extends from 8' to 10' and weighs around 1000lbs on my '02 F350 supercab 8' bed with the diesel. It will handle it fine. You'll replace ball joints every other year if you do a lot of plowing, and it will wear out the sway bar bushings (NOT the end links) like there's no tomorrow, but they're pretty cheap and easy to fix. (that's what the clunk clunk noise will be when you hit a bump, and you'll be able to feel it in the floorboards.....been there.) Put about 800 lbs in the bed, and let er rip. One nice thing about plowing with a diesel is the extra weight of the motor seems to hold the truck down a lot better and enable it to push snow pretty much until it starts to roll back onto the hood without ever sliding the front end off the row.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gbroehl1
Ok, so I finally replaced my old '79 F150 with an '01 F250 CrewCab, shortbed with the 7.3 Diesel. I was looking to put an 8' Boss plow on it but when I contacted them (Boss), they told me that they don't have a listing for my truck/engine combination because Ford says it would overload the front axle. Now I know the Diesel is heavy but come on, I find that a little hard to believe. Western, Fisher, and Meyer all list anything from 7.5' to 8.5' plows. Does anyone know what the actual remaining weight is for my front axle? I did chip in for the extended warranty so I don't want to give Ford any excuse to back out on work that may need to be done down the road, but I also need a plow.

Also, anyone else have an 8' or larger plow on one of these? If so what brand and type.
If you are concerned about your extended warranty, do not put a plow on it. Ford ESP's require a Snowplow Surcharge (which costs a few hundred extra) for trucks that are going to be equipped with a plow and is only available on trucks with the factory plow package. As already pointed out '02 crew cabs were never offered with the plow package.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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I put a 7.5' Boss poly straight blade on my '01 F350 crew last year. I would highly recommend upgrading your front springs to "X" codes. By spring my front springs had sagged quite a bit. My front end sits quite a bit lower now. I plan to put the "X" codes in my truck this winter.
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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I've got the Boss 8' HD trip edge plow on my '03 6.0 PSD. I also put on extra 1200# springs that brought it up to the 6000# rating of the plow package.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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Thanks for all the replies!

Where would I be able to pick up a set of these springs? Would I have to go to Ford directly or can I buy them aftermarket/Ebay?
 
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gbroehl1
Thanks for all the replies!

Where would I be able to pick up a set of these springs? Would I have to go to Ford directly or can I buy them aftermarket/Ebay?
OEM Ford is the best unless you want to get custom springs done. Here is a list of what you would need to do the swap...

Spring - (Qty. 2) 2C3Z-5310-AF

U-Bolt - (Qty. 4) F81Z-5705-ZA

Nut - (Qty. 8) N805480-S426

Just remember that putting 6K springs up front does not change the fact that your front axle has a max rating of 5200 lbs. Your truck as it sits with out the plow or any cargo/people is going to weigh right around 4500 lbs on the front axle. This is why Ford never offered the plow package on the crew cabs...
 
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gbroehl1

Also, anyone else have an 8' or larger plow on one of these? If so what brand and type.
Check out plow-site...

http://www.plowsite.com/
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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In addition to the X code springs you will want to install a pair of Timbren helper springs.

Surf to www.letstalksnow.com for additional info, plow info, deals, etc.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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Trimbrens ?????

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In addition to the X code springs you will want to install a pair of Timbren helper springs.
I beg to differ with you---I installed "X" springs when I put my 8 foot Fisher HD plow on my truck. The plow assembly and mounting brackets weigh well over 1000 pounds, and my truck sits at least 1-2 inches higher in the front with the plow lifted than most 250's & 350's sit without a plow. You don't need any extra help when you have those 6000 pound rated springs. Look at the picture below--The truck is sitting level with the plow raised--Most trucks are down in the front without any plow on them. It may be hard to tell, but with the plow lifted there is 10" of space between the top of the tire and the fender lip---10.5" with no plow. Lifting the plow only results in a 1/2" drop with the "X" springs. The tires are the original 265/75R16's.






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