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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by greagin
okay, oil, dates and fish......LOL!!

In 2007 oil and petrochemicals accounted for over 80% of the nations total exports so , in my opinion, that is all they have. literally you are correct and i was on a rant; however, if their oil fields were to dry up, the nation would be flat busted rather quickly and have to start selling hand blown glass or something from all of that sand!!
I always found all of this so interesting.

America could hold the world hostage too..not with oil, but with FOOD. Without our farmers and exports of grain and corn, much of the world would be SOL.

Regions such as the Middle East, Africa, and Asia have Net cereal imports, which means they don't produce enough to sustain their own population.

Without us, they starve.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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correctimundo!!!
 
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Smokin'
I always found all of this so interesting.

America could hold the world hostage too..not with oil, but with FOOD. Without our farmers and exports of grain and corn, much of the world would be SOL.

Regions such as the Middle East, Africa, and Asia have Net cereal imports, which means they don't produce enough to sustain their own population.

Without us, they starve.
and farmers are struggling.... HOW??? i don't doubt that they are, but with demand like that, it has to be some government crap that keeps them from getting to those markets directly...
 
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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VERY interesting point Lisa.
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With the price of oil climbing to records levels like that, I was wondering how long it would be before a neighboring country without oil wells considered invasion.
Push people hard enough they start to push back and if the world had to pay $200.00 per barrel, then the OPEC nations had better have a good military force.
I'm not saying that we (the USA) would consider something like that, but there are plenty of other nations in the world that have a growing economy and plenty of people for the invading force. China perhaps?
 
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Kwikkordead
VERY interesting point Lisa.

I'm not saying that we (the USA) would consider something like that, but there are plenty of other nations in the world that have a growing economy and plenty of people for the invading force. China perhaps?
I can see your point Dan. If one kid in the cafeteria has all of the brownies and won't share, it's only a matter of time before all of the other kids trip him while he's walking and steal his brownies.

My point was...the rest of the world had better be careful how much advantage they take of this great nation. Granted, we have the best military force in the world. Granted, we have the best talent, the most brilliant minds... but don't make us too mad, we'll shut off our food supplies and starve you until you surrender.

How much is a barrel of oil worth if you and the rest of your forsaken country is dying of starvation?

Better figure out how to grow corn in a pile of sand.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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Me Likey.

But what would we do with all that food?.....eat it all and get even fatter!
 
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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I've been telling everyone who will listen that oil will be $10/bbl before it hits $250/bbl. My theory is countries get addicted to the money and as the price falls they have to pump more to get the same revenue. By pumping more they make the situation worse (for them) and the price just plummets. That plus the diminishing "Bush Premium" on the price of oil tells me we're in for some low oil prices next year and beyond.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by papadelogan
and farmers are struggling.... HOW??? i don't doubt that they are, but with demand like that, it has to be some government crap that keeps them from getting to those markets directly...
Brendan, well right now not too many farmers are having financial troubles. I heard this morning that in 1972 soybeans hit $12.90/bushel. Thirty-five years later, beans finally hit it again. During that time they spent more time around $5/bu which was bearly break even. In the last 5 years, the prices of rent, seed, chemicals and fertilizer have increased dramatically. Five years ago I was paying $250/ton of nitrogen fertilizer. This fall it will be over $1200/ton and higher next spring. Other fertilizer components have gone up accordingly. Seed corn 5 years ago was $80/bag. Next year it is predicted to be close to $300. So, yes, farmers are getting good prices but the cost of production is escallating extremely fast. Bottom line is all we are doing is handling more money. There are a lot of fractors involved but I won't bore you any more.
 
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Just to add to the world oil & food discussion. Looks like Cavez & Venezuela is at it again, they just ousted our Ambassador on Thursday after Russia sent strategic bombers to South America - the first time since to cold war.

link = FOXNews.com - U.S. Lashes Back After Chavez Forces Envoy From Venezuela - International News

Russia & Putin are behind the scenes pulling the strings:

link = FOXNews.com - Two Russian Bombers sent to Venezuela



There are alot of things that happen on a daily basis that do not make the headline news - until something bad happens.



Which reminds me. Remember not to fill up at Citgo Stations. Citgo is owned by Hugo Chavez the communist American hating dictator in Venezuela. Make sure you do not send a dime their way, also - Mystic oil, used by alot of farmers in my area, is part of Citgo & owned by Chavez - don't buy there products either.
 
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