also folks with dp are most likley serious about the power! a dp is most of the time one of the safest things added..... most that add a dp also wind up with sticks,turbo(s), and alot of engine mods cant really blame dp for PMS

 

True dat. . .
Timmy

 

As sponsors of this forum I feel we are olibgated to explain in detail what was just accused of us. Now people are intitled to their opinions, but when oppinions are put out in public view to give false information to the forum members then that is different.


The survery he is referring to is here:

7.3L Engine Failure Survey - Powerstroke Nation

Just FYI- if your are going to make statements then please give links to the forum members so they know what your are talking about. Most of these guys do not frequent other forums.


In this survey you will find other common factors of why engines blew. Jody and I knew this survey was being posted. Dennis at ITP asked Jody his input on what vitale questions needed to be asked. For many in that thread it was just too easy to blame one source. A close minded attempt to blame someone who is only doing what is asked of him. Do you not think that our competitors customers have not blewn up their trucks. Don't be naive. They chose not to fill out the survey, but I know there are some. Your tuner must know everything about the modificatons you are doing. Jody knows the tuning side very well. He also has a vast knowledge of which parts work and which ones don't. If you ask him what mods he would do first he'll tell you. If you ask him if he thinks this parts is a good one he'll tell you yay or nay. He always tells people who have PMR rods that if you throw gobs of fuel at them without the right combination they won't live. Jody has an 2002 with BD 530's, Qssb turbo, many other things. His tuning is less then stock tuning. WHY? Because he knows the limits.

Jody and I do not like the fact that so many trucks have blewn. After the quest for big power hit it seemed more trucks started blewing. Not just with Jody's tuning either. If you modify your truck you must fully understand the consequences and accept them if the advice you get from your peers isn't what's right for you.

Stroken-
And why is that? We have over 7k people running the 80 Econo tune. Don't pass judgement on what 23 out of over 7000 have said. The guys that have modded their trucks like these guys have are less than 1% of our customer base. I doubt very seriously they drove their trucks very gingerly either. The damage accures to the rods way before they actually let go. You have to listen to the symptoms and not keep driving it. The 80e is what most people drive around in so unfortunately that's the tune being blamed.

It's that kind of posts why some forums are never frequented any more. Its posts like that, that tare people down. You are 18 and have no clue as to how many other companies have been known for blewing up stock trucks. In the late 90's early 2000's the interent today was not what it was then. Today if you are going to do or have done something, within 2 minutes the whole world will know about it. Not so back then. Think about statements like you made and know your history.

To the moderators- as a sponsor if I am out of line, I will understand if this post is deleted.


Diane

 

VERY WELL SAID and I hope it does not get deleted and very glad you posted this Diane..the way I see it is DP tuner is one of if not the top seller..this is why DP tuner shows up in these threads so many times..them guy's over on that site do a lot more modding then we ever thought of..I been a member and daily reader over there for over a year even though my post count is less then 40..them guy's are big time HP seekers and push these power stroke over the limit..that forum is where the big HP talks come from like snow white..power stoked and what have you..them guy's have Big bucks and own diesel shops all over the country...things are tried and tested with them guy's before you see it on the shelf at you favorite web site...stop blaming DP tuner..far too many of us small time guy's have had no trouble with DP tunes..

 

Hey Diane, very informative post. I'll be calling you this week to let you know what i want, thanks...

 

Ron I agree with you 100% here. No offense to Kenny, I have met him and he is a good person. If you see post 48 7.3L Engine Failure Survey : Survey Results

70% "drove it like they stole it" You can only beat on a mechanical device for so long before it goes. No matter what it is.

 

thanks Jim..if you ever read over there you will see them guy's are just hard on there trucks as they are on each other...not that it's a bad thing....but something to keep in mind when reading that thread...

 

I have read a few threads from time to time Ron, and you are correct there. They are hard on each other. This is just another example of why I very rarely venture outside of our forum here.

 

Well I wasnt trying to start a war here. Just answering the mans question. I think that in order for him to get the full point of what solid ground was saying I had to mention the fact of the results from the engine failure survey.

The survey has been posted so therefore I will not post it again. I wasnt blamming anything on dp-tuner, I have it and love it, why would I be putting it down? Just answering the mans question.

Edit: I listed my major mods in my signature and at the end it says.. "all tuned by dp-tuner" I brag about them, another reason I wasnt trying to put them down.

 

You won't see anybody on here.....well.....VERY FEW anyways, people dumping their DP Tuners. We stand behind a great product. Every piece of machinery has it's limits. When you keep modding, more and more, it's inevitable that it will break eventually. That's just how it goes.......if you do it the RIGHT way, and don't go overboard.....you'll get thousands and thousands of PERMA-GRIN miles like tons of us have on here already. My name is Travis and I support this message

 

Thats the truth..

 

The tuner has no control over the the modifications done by the vehicle owner. The wrong mods, or combination of, could have adverse effects sometimes. You need to be well informed on how things work together. I like to experiment with these type of things. Some have good results, some not. I ask questions and also sit back and listen to other people's posts before trying new things. I have learned alot here and will continue to make informed decisions. I would not advise someone to do something I haven't tried myself or not sure about.

 

Kenny I apologize, but I had to make a solid point myself. I didn't say you were blaming us for anything. I was using your post as an examlple of posting misguided information to a forum that many would have no idea what you were talking about. If you go back and reread how you posted it you will see my point. Its not what you do in life that's so important, it's what you choose to do with it. The question was not for you to anwser, but you chose to anwser it. Therefore you were responded to.

By the way you posted it seemed as though you were agreeing with the things posted about it being Jody's tuning to blame. I am glad to know you don't Please be careful how you post things. Remember this is the internet. There's no feelings attached when it is written text.


Diane

 

Thats why this place is great. I listened and searched through everything to make sure everything comes together before i make the big purchase. I called Diane and Jody in Jan i think to get an idea on what i want and the told me to get the gauges( like everybody here said) for security purposes and for what i wanted out of the truck. Also a VB if i wan't to support the trans. Very profesional.