Oil Capacity
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Make sure you use a quality diesel oil and you can also get great prices on filters deliverd to your door from FleetFilter.com
Cargo Master
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From: Slatington, PA
I usually put in 13 quarts and top off as needed. Dont forget to fill the filter about 3/4 of the way. It takes about a quart and a half. If you put too much in, it'll run down the side of the filter when you screw it on (sits on an angle) 
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pre-filling filters actually introduces dirt to the oil system..and oil out of a gallon or quart sized jug is some of the dirtiest oil you can buy...
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the 5 HDEO VOA's i just looked up all listed 0.0% insolubles, and they say that if it's over 0.7% then there's a problem. I wouldn't worry about dirt getting in there that way.
Cargo Master
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From: Slatington, PA
Really? How'd you come to that conclusion? I would think that fresh oil would be clean.
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From: Lancaster, Pa.
I looked at this twice so i didn't think i was seeing things, HUH???
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From: Millbrook Alabama
Come on Nic, you cant just make a statement like that without back up facts. Put up the facts man.
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From: East Peoria, IL
Sorry guys, heres why I say that. Its all based upon Caterpillars standards too if you are wondering.
Prefilling filters (fuel, oil, etc.) introduces dirt into the system because you are just pouring the oil into the filter. The filter is not actually filtering the new oil. That is basically it in a nut shell. If someone wants a better, more detailed explanation let me know and I will work on something useful when I get time.
Oil out of a gallon or smaller size container is so contaminated compared to a 55 gallon drum or the equivalent because it has been handled so many times in the factory. Actually, oil out of a gallon size container does not even meet Caterpillars specs, but they are pretty strict.
Most of this probably doesnt mean much to all of you, which is fine considering the small amount of contaminatino you would get. It would be fine for an engine system, but for a system like hyraulics that is really sensitive, it would come into play.
hope that makes sense
Prefilling filters (fuel, oil, etc.) introduces dirt into the system because you are just pouring the oil into the filter. The filter is not actually filtering the new oil. That is basically it in a nut shell. If someone wants a better, more detailed explanation let me know and I will work on something useful when I get time.
Oil out of a gallon or smaller size container is so contaminated compared to a 55 gallon drum or the equivalent because it has been handled so many times in the factory. Actually, oil out of a gallon size container does not even meet Caterpillars specs, but they are pretty strict.
Most of this probably doesnt mean much to all of you, which is fine considering the small amount of contaminatino you would get. It would be fine for an engine system, but for a system like hyraulics that is really sensitive, it would come into play.
hope that makes sense
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Oil out of a gallon or smaller size container is so contaminated compared to a 55 gallon drum or the equivalent because it has been handled so many times in the factory. Actually, oil out of a gallon size container does not even meet Caterpillars specs, but they are pretty strict.
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From: Flagstaff, Arizona
time for a Blackstone clean oil sample to be sent in for comparison if ya wanna be SURE of that statement.......seems very weird to me the factory would openly admit their oil isn't pure because it's been handled so many times! 