ok guys i'm goint to add in from the other side....the diesel side....ok i have an old 7.3 idi. one of my good freinds has a 99 v10. i was looking for a big gas when i bought mine but at the time the v10's were just too new for my budget. we've towed things and the problem with the v10 is the economy and the lack of power when you load it down. yes i know they have power so dont jump on me about that but with a big load even my old 7.3/ats turbo walks away from it. and the diesel craze started with a real good engine the 7.3 idi and especially the 7.3 powerstroke, and when diesel was cheaper, now with diesel being more expensive and the regulations of zero particulate in the tailpipe, the way they have to achive this with the new diesels it causes them to be more hard on fuel thus making the v10 more desireable. so basically the guys who buy diesels to drive up to the store and get groceries and maybe go to work are kidding themselves.. but that is what the vast majority seem to want thats why the dealers stock them. and the others that are undecided the B.S flingers (sales) can talk them into them. my diesel now i really dont need as much anymore, i dont tow much anymore but i'm not replacing my truck and no payment with a truck and a payment. I like diesels but if i were buying a new truck i dont think i'd be buying the new powerstrokes because of the problems,and economy of them.

 

Very good post by northern 7.3.. You just can not compare the older year diesels, any brand, with the newer ones with the new emission standards .Still our 6.4 does very well considering the total weight ,truck and 5th wheel, of over 22K. We had the 05 V-10 for 3 years and it performed well. If we had not started to travel on the big grades and high altitudes on a regular basis we would have stayed with the V-10. We use our trucks for towing heavy loads in all conditions and terrain and had to choose the motor that best served our needs. Most folks have been conditioned to believe that you need a diesel to pull anything...nothing could be farther from the truth.

 

The '97-99 V10's were notoriously choked in terms of power.

The 2000-2004 "PI" headed engines were much better.

 

that may be but they are still short 100 ft/lbs of torque. i'm not knocking the v10's what so ever, i like them pesonally, its just a fact the diesel is gonna tow up and above the v10. until a certain point mind you the v10 will tow just as well, maybe even better. i know his V10 (my friends), and i'm sure the 2000 and up didnt like, or wouldnt like 15000lbs of bales on a 5000lb trailer. we usually towed on backroads that would be soft sometimes and it really suckholed compared to the diesels, and burned about 1-1/2 times the fuel, then he popped a sparkplug out of the hole so he quit doing that and the trucks got replaced with a semi. just driving it around or with light load its not really much different as far as fuel consumption goes. a little worse compaired to my diesel. the new ones are a whole new ball game i know. so what i'm saying is in yesteryear they were less desireable, to most, for those reasons, but now the fuel consumption is the same ish, fuel costs in mind, and with the odd towing, or moderate loads the diesel is really just a big initial cost that will never be overcame. i'm a diesel driver and i'm saying the V10 is a better value for a lot of people, its just less popular

 

It was probably true. This is why I can't get divorced. Why are divorces so expensive? Cuz they are worth it. Regardless, someone came up on a good buy. I wish i lived in that area.

 

I just don't get you people. My 1999 has sufficient power to tow and off-road. You guys are spoiled with your 3v V10. I seriously do not need more power. Are we in a race for the next red light? Go figure.

 

"You people" ??? Nice

I don't have a 3-valve anyway...

But the '97-99 V10's were reviewed by many and found to be lacking in power at higher RPMs, and many people came into the V10 forum over the years asking why they would run up a hill, hit a certain RPM, and actually SLOW DOWN. Because the non-PI headed V10 can't breath at high RPMs.

I'm very glad you are happy with your '99 V10 - many are. Some weren't.

Thank you, and goodnight.

 

Sorry Pal, i will reiterate that.

Fellow Ford Owners,

I agree, but I don't seem to have that problem. I just stomp on it and goes up the hill. I found my V10 to have have more power at Higher RPM. What gives, I dunno.

Good Night, Where are you in Iraq? Regardless, c'ya

 

Odd. When I bought my V10 in 03, I couldn't find one anywhere in the metro area (Kansas City). I found a dealer in Lawrence, KS that had more V10s than Diesels. I believe they had 11 on the lot and had a sister lot in Beloit, KS that had over 20. I talked to a salesman and told him I had been looking in town and couldn't find a thing. They deal a lot with ranchers and told me that the 5.4/V10 was the preferred truck on a ranch.

The fields are usually wet and soft and the gas trucks weigh less and don't bog down as easily. Don't want to start a war here but also that the gas (V10) would pull loads equal to the Diesel. The majority of these trucks were XLs and XLTs, with sticks and manual 4X4s. That's exactly what I was looking for so it worked out great for me.

I have to say, I owned an 03 F350 7.3. It was a great truck. Yes, it did get a load moving easier than my V10. However, once moving, I can't tell a difference, in fact, I think the V10 surpasses the 7.3. I have the 2v V10 by the way. Both are really good motors, I would take either over any GM or Dodge product and that's all that matters. You can argue motor preference all day long but the fact is, there is a lot more to a truck than how much rated output the motor has. Ford may not know much but Ford does know trucks. Can't go wrong with any Ford motor.