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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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dummy gauges going stupid.....

I can't seem to figure out why the gauges are acting the way they are. After running for about 5 minutes the oil pressure gauge goes up slowly to the top. After running for about 10 minutes or so the temp gauge goes all the way up instantly at the same time the battery gauge goes all the way dead. Whats up with that? Where do I start?

I had a scanner on while running it and they definately aren't right.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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Could this be a bad ground to the gauges? Dont know for sure.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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Have you tested your batts?
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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I really don't know where to start. I had 2 diesel mach on it and they are telling me to change the oil pressure sensor, and the collent temp sensor(which I have no idea where it is on an E-350) But then he missed the battery gauge reading dead. So I didn't hear what the "fix" for that was.

I am really suspicious about wasting money and time on just changing out the sensors. I already changed the oil pressur sensor once with another used one that worked last about a year ago when it was in an engine that was pulled from a wreck.

by the way, When I pull the plug on the oil pressure sensor it reads nothing, all the way to the bottom.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jhand124
Have you tested your batts?
no need to they are dead need a booster or jump to start it.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jeremy53402
no need to they are dead need a booster or jump to start it.
That could be part of your problem. Low voltage will do some weird thing to electronics and other parts of these trucks.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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That could be part of your problem. Low voltage will do some weird thing to electronics and other parts of these trucks.
Cha-Ching! ^^^^^^^^^ What Jim said.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by megawatt00
That could be part of your problem. Low voltage will do some weird thing to electronics and other parts of these trucks.
I'll put new batteries in tomorrow. I just don't see that fixing the oil pressure gauge though. you could set you clock to it. As I stated when the plug for the OPS is removed it goes to the bottom. Maybe the sudden drop and rise or the volt meter and the temp.

Where is the collent temp sensor in a 1998 E-350?
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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The oil pressure sensor is nothing more then a pressure switch that turns on at 7psi. I cant remember exactly where the coolant temp sensor is though. Its somewhere near the water pump more towards the drivers side......I think.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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The oil pressure sensor is nothing more then a pressure switch that turns on at 7psi. I cant remember exactly where the coolant temp sensor is though. Its somewhere near the water pump more towards the drivers side......I think.
I agree that it is not that vital but why would the gauge start climing after it warms up? The "switch" turns on at 7psi but then isn't it supposed to read the oip pressure? Why would it be there if it is not that important anyways? I know the injectors won't turn on if the oil pressure is too high or too low.

Could It be from some sort of blow by? Would that eventually cause the oil pressure to rise? And the gauge is actually accurate. I did a cylinder contriubution test and all eight are running fine. (just a thought) please don't scare me if you aren't sure.........
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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I just found this out myself, but the oil pressure guage does not read actual pressure, just that there is some. Any other electronic guage is gonna read a relative amount of voltage and convert it to the correct value. Screwed up voltage into the sensor will lead to screwed up info out of it. Fix the battery issue first.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jeremy53402
I agree that it is not that vital but why would the gauge start climing after it warms up? The "switch" turns on at 7psi but then isn't it supposed to read the oip pressure? Why would it be there if it is not that important anyways? I know the injectors won't turn on if the oil pressure is too high or too low.

Could It be from some sort of blow by? Would that eventually cause the oil pressure to rise? And the gauge is actually accurate. I did a cylinder contriubution test and all eight are running fine. (just a thought) please don't scare me if you aren't sure.........
The oil pressure gauge just goes to the same spot regardless of the pressure as long as its above the 7psi. This sounds like an electrical gremlin. Check out those batts first. If that doesnt fix it, I'd start looking for a loose connection at the sensors or on the instrument panel.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by joegebff
I just found this out myself, but the oil pressure guage does not read actual pressure, just that there is some. Any other electronic guage is gonna read a relative amount of voltage and convert it to the correct value. Screwed up voltage into the sensor will lead to screwed up info out of it. Fix the battery issue first.
Well I'm on it tomorrow then. I'll take two batteries out of one of my cummins and cross my fingers. If I don't have to change any sensors that will .

Its been a long journey with this engine swap. Learned to many things the hard way! Not to mention the expensive way. Wish I found this site long before I attempted this treat.

I'll follow up with the results. I know that all the threads I read without conclusions didn't end up with the trucks just going to the junkyard.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 11:38 PM
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Just thinking... Could I just use a pillar gauge set up? Or secondary gauges to 1: test the sensors and 2: have accurate readings. Its stock but the original engine melted down on one bank only. I think I need at least an accurate collent temp and EGTs on each side wouldn't hurt.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 07:45 AM
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Last month my gauges jumped around then went dead then back on then dead etc...My alt. went south, the brushes were just touching the armiture causing voltage spikes. (I think)
I had working gauges, radio, power windows, etc... at idle, but as soon as I was off idle they went dead. I drove home like that dead.
Check ground wires and voltage across the battery, it maybe an oman to a bigger problem..
Colin
 
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