fuel injection to carb
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No offense, Pro70Golfer, as I hope you get your mpg resolved, but this, by Sangetsu03, was just priceless, IMO:
Maybe it's just my sense of humor, but that's funny.
And I'm not a technician, as some of these knowledgable guys obviously are, but I would not swap EFI for a carb. If it was a manual transmission, that would be easier, obviously, and I still wouldn't to it. I've pulled codes before, and made repairs based on that, and the EFI really isn't that mysterious, if you take it in small steps. Just my .02.
Think about it--if your problem is solved by a few dollars of vacuum lines, as mine was when my truck threw an EGR code, how happy will you be that you ran the diagnostics and worked the problem?
I saw a code reader at Wally World, for $99., and I'd bet someone here could recommend a better one, for less money. Mine was given to me, and did the job. I believe you can even dispense with the reader, and count the flashes of the "Check Engine" light, if you don't want to buy a code puller IIRC.
Best of luck.
For the time and effort (and money) required to convert to a carburetor, you could just as easily replace your computer, all of the sensors, the hoses, and probably install a nice stereo as well.
And I'm not a technician, as some of these knowledgable guys obviously are, but I would not swap EFI for a carb. If it was a manual transmission, that would be easier, obviously, and I still wouldn't to it. I've pulled codes before, and made repairs based on that, and the EFI really isn't that mysterious, if you take it in small steps. Just my .02.
Think about it--if your problem is solved by a few dollars of vacuum lines, as mine was when my truck threw an EGR code, how happy will you be that you ran the diagnostics and worked the problem?
I saw a code reader at Wally World, for $99., and I'd bet someone here could recommend a better one, for less money. Mine was given to me, and did the job. I believe you can even dispense with the reader, and count the flashes of the "Check Engine" light, if you don't want to buy a code puller IIRC.
Best of luck.
Last edited by BigSix1; 07-24-2008 at 03:22 AM. Reason: Decorum
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has anyone done a conversion with a late model truck with a 460. my truck is pretty much a toy now 100%. and i'm toying around with the idea of hopping up my motor but 460efi sucks when it comes to high performance. im not a rock crawler so i don't care that carbs dont run worth a damn on angles.
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Originally Posted by Sangetsu03
I can also tell you that even though these carbs can be made to run an engine very well, they don't come even close to being able to make an engine run as well (or as efficiently) as modern fuel injection.
I will agree with most people in here that say not to replace your EFI for a carb setup. It really is more trouble than its worth, not to mention more expensive. I can also agree that you will not really gain anything by throwing out a perfectly good EFI system in favor of a carburetor. But if the original poster's mind is made up, going to a carburetor is not as "ridiculous" as so many people here seem to think.
Why do so many people seem to think that a carbureted vehicle is such a bad thing? I have to admit, when I first got my carbureted 1985 F150, I thought that hard starts, running rich, cold driveability problems and poor gas mileage was normal with a carbureted vehicle. And a lot of that had to do with reading posts like this one. By reading posts in the older forums that exclusively run carburetors, I have learned that, properly setup and tuned with the right size carburetor and choke system, a carbureted vehicle can run just as well as any modern fuel-injected vehicle can. My own carbureted 302 F150 starts right up in any weather with a single pump, idles smooth and steady, doesn't stall, and I get around 20 mpg. I don't see modern EFI trucks getting much better than that. Plus there are no expensive sensors to replace and parts are much cheaper.
How is that for "coming close" to modern EFI?
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I agree with this believe it or not, I have carbed and EFI vehicles that run very well and get great milage, but this also proves that in order to get good results with either system the owner has to take the initiative to learn about it. In my opinion EFI isn't any harder than carbs.. just requires a different knowledge set.
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