All Y'all Get Ready
Elder User
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From: Stevens County, WA
Just read an article that Congress is thinking about raising diesel fuel tax a dime(same with gassers as well) coming up next year. Plus they are also wanting to levy a tax based on how many miles you drive as well. Get ready to assume the position, I already know I'm going to have to(I hate to think what that tax will be per mile as I drive about 40k+ a year now).
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Post Fiend
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From: Plano TX and Brentwood TN
I can't see a tax on how many miles a person drives ever happening. There would be a major tax revolt. That would be a restriction on freedom movement. Fuel taxes now are based on gallons purchased, not distance travelled. How would this program work? Would we drive to a site where our odometers were officially read on an annual basis? I can't see this happening in my lifetime. Except for maybe in SanFrancisco or Boston.
Posting Guru
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Wouldn't it be nice if the tax laws Congress is dreaming up actually impacted those that write the laws? We all know not one SOB in Washington will have to pay any form of mileage or fuel tax since everything they use is goverment funded. Talk about hypocrites!
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From: Wendover, NV.
This is just the thing that is going to get more of us out here in the sticks to start making our own fuel and telling the government and the EPA to kiss our A*&$. What next a tax for riding a bicycle?
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Post Fiend
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From: Plano TX and Brentwood TN
If we continue to have demand destruction for diesel/gas(particularly since it looks like light sweet crude is heading back up based on today's trading) and more people riding bikes(which means less fed/state tax dollars per gallon of gas) I wouldn't doubt that there will start being some type of regulation in order to get their tax money from those people.
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From: Land O Lakes, Fl.
I can't see a tax on how many miles a person drives ever happening. There would be a major tax revolt. That would be a restriction on freedom movement. Fuel taxes now are based on gallons purchased, not distance travelled. How would this program work? Would we drive to a site where our odometers were officially read on an annual basis? I can't see this happening in my lifetime. Except for maybe in SanFrancisco or Boston.
Why is it that if Europe does something, it must be better than what America is already doing?
That tax is cheap compared to what John Kerry proposed last year. 50cents a gallon I believe.
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So here's the big question. How much tax actually goes back into the road repair, etc system?
I'm not sold on mass transit. All these people that pay .50 a day on the east coast to get to work have it made. It has to take a decent sum to keep those lines running. I remember reading somewhere that it comes out of the fuel taxes. So the people that live out in bfe are paying for them to get to work...
I'm not sold on mass transit. All these people that pay .50 a day on the east coast to get to work have it made. It has to take a decent sum to keep those lines running. I remember reading somewhere that it comes out of the fuel taxes. So the people that live out in bfe are paying for them to get to work...
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Post Fiend
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From: Plano TX and Brentwood TN
I figured as low as .80 a day in the Dallas area for mass transit if you commit to the longest term of use though(2 yrs I believe).
Mountain Pass
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From: Northern IN
The thing that no one (at least the liberal politicians) ever seems to remember is that ultimately, the consumer pays for absolutely, totally, 100% of everything. This liberal garbage about taxing corporations, etc, is nothing more than a hidden tax on consumers. This is economics 101.
Anyway, I think it probably won't be too long before we have a tax revolt in this country, particularly if this type of tax passes. There are far too many taxes paid that are squandered on things that are supposed to help the environment, but are nothing more than a bunch of feel good policies. my $0.02
Anyway, I think it probably won't be too long before we have a tax revolt in this country, particularly if this type of tax passes. There are far too many taxes paid that are squandered on things that are supposed to help the environment, but are nothing more than a bunch of feel good policies. my $0.02
More Turbo
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From: Boulder Junction Wi
Ya'll starting to see the light with congress,watch this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek9dU4G-qL8 ,Nancy has been speaker for about 2 year's,fuel is up about $2.00 a gal in that time,think about that in November!!!!!!.
Token Redneck
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From: Breckenridge, TX
Congrats, you're smarter than 95% of the politicians in America. I wish I could make Congress take remedial economics and a basic tax class. Apparently common sense and education are the most lacking common thread among our elected leaders.
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Post Fiend
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From: Plano TX and Brentwood TN
Don't forget history classes as well. Alot of mistakes that are being made now could have been avoided if most people would learn from the mistakes from the past. Human nature doesn't change and that is what you learn from history.
Mountain Pass
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From: Northern IN
This is an entire book published online, and it is a lot of reading, but very interesting. It was written in June 1931, shortly after the stock market crash, and just as the Great Depression was really getting going. It is amazing how there was a great Florida real estate bubble just before the crash, not unlike the one we just had. As they say, history tends to repeat itself because every generation thinks they are better and smarter than the previous generations.