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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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More vin decode help please

Pulled 4 door plate codes at the scrap yard today. Let me know if there are any hidden treasures in this bunch. Thanks!


1) This is a F100 CC

F10al821997

129 w f100 281 c 08

05000 129 4000 55

2) another cc

f10al809172

129 bm f100 681 g 09

3) MERC MONTEREY BREATHER SAYS 429 4V, SCRAP GUY SAYS ITS ONLY A 352 OR 390. Sure fills up the engine bay though.

57A M 25 08G 52 14

5Z48Z597116

4) MERC MONTEREY

57F K 36 01D41 14

5Z68Z565328
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 01:18 PM
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just saw this on the main page maybe itll help you out.

VIN Number Decoder offer to you by Ford Trucks Enthusiasts | www.ford-trucks.com
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Im gonna do each of these in their own post so as not to confuse you...

Firstly, F10AL821997

F10 = F series 1/2 ton 2WD pickup
A = 240 6 cylinder engine
L = Michigan assy.
821997 = Feb. 1966 build date


129 = wheelbase in inches(longbed)
W = Medium Blue
F100 = truck model
281 = 2 is interior trim color/pattern- Medium blue crush vinyl and medium blue wicker pattern vinyl, the 81 is a conventional cab. the number in front of the 81 denotes a base model truck, Custom Cab models would have a letter instead of a number in this place.

C = manual light duty 3 speed trans.
08 = 3.50 standard rear axle
5000 = max GVWR
129@4000 = engine cert. net HP
55 = DSO = where original selling dealer ordered truck through...55 is St. Louis



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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 02:42 PM
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Next...F10AL809172
F10 = F series 2WD 1/2 ton truck
A = 240 6 cylinder
L = Michigan assy.
809172 = Jan. 1966 build

129 = wheelbase in inches(longbed)
BM = Turquoise and Wimboldon white exterior paint
F100 = truck model
681 = Black all vinyl interior, conventional cab base model truck as denoted by the number preceding the 81 code CC trucks have a letter instead of a number here
G = automatic transmission...C-O-M most likely
09 = 3.70 rear axle non posi


Of the info you gave on this one, the only thing I would snag is the auto column...IF its the original...If it has a good firewall insulation pad...or if either of them do, Im in need of one badly also. Also, on the first truck
Also, if the truck has it original seat a nd covering...I suspect the seats prolly thrashed...grab a sample of the insert material...some of the patterns can be more difficult then others to find then others and the parts catalogs on CDs dont have the color pics like the papaer books do...or at least partially as in my case. I would try to grab 3X3 or so if you can...Im trying to get some of the different samples together to create my own visual aid


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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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On the Mercs, Z code in the VIN is a 390 4bbl engine, the 1st car has a 3.00 conventional axle(1) with a Twin Range Turbo Drive trans.which I sense is a fancy name for a C-O-M
The 1 and 4 on the 2nd car is the same as the first, both are 1965s, both are 4 dr h/t, 2nd car is a Parklane and the first is a Monterey


Hope this helps, cs65
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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Thanks alot. Still no posi and still no 427, 428, or 429 hidden gems yet, lol. The 2nd truck I think did have a auto steering column missing the plastic drive indicator piece. The first truck has a automatic column with a 289 and probably a c4. I am also in need of a auto column, but I will take a look at them again and get back with you. I think the plastic piece is still available. The seat from the second truck has been replaced or redone.

On the mercs, Even though it was a 390 instead of a 429 as the breather states, I kind of like the valve covers that say mercury on them. Still might grab the whole engine if its cheap enough.

Thanks for all the help!
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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No problem, glad to help.


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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by drof46
Thanks alot. Still no posi and still no 427, 428, or 429 hidden gems yet, lol. The 2nd truck I think did have a auto steering column missing the plastic drive indicator piece. The first truck has a automatic column with a 289 and probably a c4. I am also in need of a auto column, but I will take a look at them again and get back with you. I think the plastic piece is still available. The seat from the second truck has been replaced or redone.

On the mercs, Even though it was a 390 instead of a 429 as the breather states, I kind of like the valve covers that say mercury on them. Still might grab the whole engine if its cheap enough.

Thanks for all the help!
Just an off the wall question. Could it be that the engine in the Merc is a transplant??? Probably not, but I have seen stranger things.

Bill T.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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Its possible...depending if its a greaseball or not is a fair indicator as if its OE the bolts and such would be buried to a degree possibly and so on....Look for the engine tag also...390 TBird engines were under the LF intake manifold bolt, all other engines its under the coil mounting bracket bolt. And just for drill, the tags on the 260 and 289 are under the temperature sender.


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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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wherent the 352 the 390 and 429 all the same blocks? just different bores and strokes?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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yes, all FE engines began life as a 352...the 352 you see on the LF of the block for whatever reason was never taken out of the casting...as far as the 429, Im not sure of...I believe the 428 is the FE...the 429 is of the 385 family..

FE engines are the 332, 352,360,361,390,391,406,410 and 428
385 engine family is the 429, Boss 429 and 460
Y Blocks are the 239,254,272,292 and 312


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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 07:10 AM
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According to my engine book, the 429 is a new family.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 07:36 AM
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FE engines: 332/352/360/361(1958 Edsel only)/390/406/410/427/428

330 M/D/330 H/D/361 & 391's are FT engines, not FE engines.

No 429 engines in Full Sized (F/S) Merc's till 1968. 429's used thru 1973.

460's available in F/S Merc's beginning in 1973, used thru 1978.

Merc VIN engine codes (5th digit): 410 (1966/67): M / 428 (1966/70): Q / 429 (1968/73): K (2V), N (4V) / 460 (1973/78): A.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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Get those Merc and lightning bolt valve covers.

They go for decent bucks to restorers.

And look really cool on a 410 like there supposed to. I have a set for my 410 spare engine.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by camperspecial65
yes, all FE engines began life as a 352...the 352 you see on the LF of the block for whatever reason was never taken out of the casting...as far as the 429, Im not sure of...I believe the 428 is the FE...the 429 is of the 385 family..

FE engines are the 332, 352,360,361,390,391,406,410 and 428
385 engine family is the 429, Boss 429 and 460
Y Blocks are the 239,254,272,292 and 312


cs65

sorry about that.. thanks for the correction, i knew it was one of those 3[the 427, 428 or 429]
 
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