500lb Lighter?
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500lb Lighter?
I thought Id ask here. In another forum someone claimed that the 2009 will be 500lb lighter. Does anyone have details? What changed? My understanding from reading the links at the top of this forum is that a V-8 and automatic are now standard. How can it be that much lighter?
PLEASE! No boxed frame debates here. That is what happened to the other thread. Unless you know otherwise, the 2009 has the same boxed frame construction as 2008. The whole truck is so similar, I just dont see where it could have lost 500lb.
Jim
PLEASE! No boxed frame debates here. That is what happened to the other thread. Unless you know otherwise, the 2009 has the same boxed frame construction as 2008. The whole truck is so similar, I just dont see where it could have lost 500lb.
Jim
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Ford did claim the frame was lighter and more rigid at the same time. other than that, no clue what else they did. I kind of doubt they were comparing it to the v6 manual; they were probably comparing similar engine/tranny combos.
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Yes I read truck is 500lbs lighter due to using higher strength steel (and I assume less of it) with exception of Screw as its longer now (6") and has new crossmember under rear portion of cab etc... something like that anyway
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jimandmandy,
Like I posted in another thread, the frame is roughly 25lbs lighter. Other items have been strengthed and hollowed out. Now I may have quoted high (500lbs), but could have swore it was at least a couple or few hundred lbs lighter.
Like I posted in another thread, the frame is roughly 25lbs lighter. Other items have been strengthed and hollowed out. Now I may have quoted high (500lbs), but could have swore it was at least a couple or few hundred lbs lighter.
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I'm sure the weight reduction also mainly applies to a base 4x2 XL with NO tow package or other HD components such as the heavier axle, overload springs, larger wheels and tires, etc.
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Actually, since the base model will no longer will be available in a V-6/M5OD configuration, that one will probably go up in weight.
The idea of thinner, higher strength steel for some frame and cab parts makes sense.
Jim
The idea of thinner, higher strength steel for some frame and cab parts makes sense.
Jim
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But 500 lbs?
A serious weight loss might happen if they cut down the size of the truck. Even changing parts from steel to aluminum would be unlikely to lose 500 lbs.
Not trying to be a devil's advocate, only a realist....
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Given the loss of a whole 25 lbs in the frame, I'm thinking the total loss due to any use of high strength steel will be more like 100-200 lbs at the outside. And with the addition of an extra 200 lbs of cupholders, insulation, and DVD players for each seat, the net loss, IMO, is going to be far closer to zero than it is to 500 lbs.
A serious weight loss might happen if they cut down the size of the truck. Even changing parts from steel to aluminum would be unlikely to lose 500 lbs.
Not trying to be a devil's advocate, only a realist....
George
A serious weight loss might happen if they cut down the size of the truck. Even changing parts from steel to aluminum would be unlikely to lose 500 lbs.
Not trying to be a devil's advocate, only a realist....
George
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Two things I would like to see that would shed hundreds of pounds are, a true regular cab without the little suicide doors that require a lot more reinforcement of the cab opening to achieve the same side impact protection, and lower the d**** bed sides so you can reach over to get things without a ladder, mount a normal slide-in camper without 2x4's, etc.
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Two things I would like to see that would shed hundreds of pounds are, a true regular cab without the little suicide doors that require a lot more reinforcement of the cab opening to achieve the same side impact protection, and lower the d**** bed sides so you can reach over to get things without a ladder, mount a normal slide-in camper without 2x4's, etc.
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Now I know a lot of people complain about the bed sides, but I like the deeper box. They could shed a little weight this way though. Now regarding your statement about reaching in the bed, is 1/2 true from what I've experienced. Park the 150 next to a newer 1500 Silverado, Ram, Tundra or Titan. You'll notice their bed rails are almost if not exactly the same heigth as the 150. The difference is the deep box and why the 150 offers more cargo volume in the box than others with similar size boxes. You'll have just as much problem reacning over the bed sides with these other trucks, just reaching items isn't as hard since they have a shallower box.
Hope that made sense, started to confuse myself.