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How do you replace fuel HOSES at filter ?

 
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Old 07-13-2008, 03:08 AM
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How do you replace fuel HOSES at filter ?

95 F150 with dual tanks. Giving up on getting filter off. The idea is to take a close quarter tube cutter and cut right after hose connects to lines and then replace OEM hose with generic rubber hose and clamps. Problem on the hose coming out of filter, getting the line free from where it is afixxed to side of rail along with some other lines. I need this freed so I can run a very small tube cutter around it. Anybody know how to get that line free on a temporary basis ? This is total bullcrap is all I gotta say. This is a mark against Ford and they won't make a cent off this maybe an enemy though.
 
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Old 07-13-2008, 03:25 AM
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Are you refering to the inline fuel filter on the frame rail?

The lines use "qwik disconnect" fittings.

Similar to what gas station air hoses use.

There are two C shaped clips (one on either side) used with the qwik disconnect lines.

F5TZ9J278A.. Retainer-Qwik Disconnect Return or Supply lines-C shaped

I don't recall and the parts catalog doesn't show if those clips need to be removed first.

Maybe someone else knows for sure.
 
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Old 07-13-2008, 05:38 AM
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If you do a search for "fuel filter" or "fuel filter removal" you should come across many good threads which describe this issue.
 
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do NOT cut them off.

read many posts on tips.
 
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They can be a pain to get off, especially if you have never don it before. Don't cut them off and use hose clamps. The high pressure pump will blow them off the filter. At least I would think they would. This isn't a low pressure fuel system like on a carberated vehicle.
 
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Too late

I already cut one off. I had gotten it off with tool and attached it prematurely to new fuel filter. When I could not get other connection off old filter I went to take it back off new filter and reconnect to old filter but then it wouldn't release. Tool would not get in there to disconnect for some reason. As per a Ford service manager I sprayed both connections highly and often with brake cleaner fluid and later switched to lubricants but to know avail. BTW my connectors are METAL not plastic.
How about I get a 7/16 to 5/16 spice at Lowes plumbing section. The hose I cut, I cut right after the connection so I would only need about 3" of hose to go over spice and clamped over filter terminal. I do have fuel injection clamps that I can use for all connections. Also have access to one of those band tools to use in place of clamps. This has really turned into a real CLUSTER----. Thanks FORD.
 
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Old 07-13-2008, 12:45 PM
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go to advance auto parts
there web site lists several repair kits for fuel lines
at there site search for "fuel line repair"
 
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Old 07-13-2008, 12:45 PM
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Thats a little harsh, thats kinda like walking into a dark room and bumping into something only to be mad at the dark when you didn't have enough sense to turn on the light. It's not Ford's fault you decided to cut the line instead of doing the proper research on how to do it correctly.
 
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I'd say you have one or more of the little fingers in the fitting bent and it won't let go. You need to use a small screwdriver, a really small regular screwdriver and a flashlight and get in there and release that one, or more bent fingers you have so the line will come off. Cut the line right at the old filter body so you can see inside the fitting to work (cutting the filter tube, not the line).

Once one or more of the little metal fingers is bent the release tool will no longer work. The fingers are easily bent with the tool in place and pulling on the line before the fingers are fully pushed out of the way by the tool.

As said before, do not use rubber hose and clamps. It is high pressure and it will eventually blow the hose off rapidity pumping fuel all over under the truck and hot exhaust before you know whats going on.
 
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Old 07-13-2008, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bang4dabuck View Post
This has really turned into a real CLUSTER---- Thanks FORD.
Why are you blaming Ford?

You should be blaming yourself for not doing the proper research.
 
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first rule of vehicle repair: do not force anything.
 
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Why do I blame FORD ???

Let me think. Could they maybe moved the placement of the filter away from the obstruction of the gas tank say another foot or so making it much easier to deal with. I say that was a pure BUSINESS decision. I wish I hadn't cut the line at this time. I took the advice of an old FORD enthusiast that used to modify cars to shark people for street races. Told me he once owned a 67' Shelby. Said he wouldn't waste a 1/2 hour with those connections. Just cut lines and clamp hose. I guess he's stuck in the carburated days ayy ? Oh well I guess I'll look at NAPA, Advanced, Autozone and Pep Boys for replacement parts. Dealer was gouging for $400 for replacements of both front and back hoses/lines. I'm just pissed that I spent about 8 hours and I can't even change a fuel filter and I am still going to have to pay somebody to get the basterd off. SUX.
 
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I know it's too late now for you bang, but a suggestion for anyone else who might read this, Snap On sells a metal fuel line disconnect tool that works much, much better than the cheap plastic ones that most auto parts places sell.

You really can't blame Ford, on the older carbed style, the fuel was pumped at the motor, so the only pressurized section was from the pump mounted on the motor to the carb; FI brought fuel pressurized from the gas tank all the way to the motor, so a better connection and hoses were required to handle the pressure. Yeah they could have put a couple more inches slack on the lines though, but as you have found out those lines are not cheap.
 
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Old 07-14-2008, 03:40 AM
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OP: Just because someone is an old Ford enthusiast doesn't mean he's always right.

I've been collecting Fords since 1956.

But when one is a Ford partsman for 35 years, one has to change with the times.

I did, it's obvious someone else didn't.
 

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