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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 02:34 AM
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well like i had been talking about in the previous post i had been having starting problems. well i went out tonight to move my car and it cranked over twice... then just started clicking. i went and got my electrical system checked earlyer, it checked out fine. the guy at autozone said that oil dripping on the starter would burn out the starter solenoid extra fast. but as far i know the starter is origonal, so i guess it's time to change it.

i guess i'm just lucky i have an awsome girlfriend that cares about me that can take me to work... i guess i'm going to be using a work truck to get home tomorrow (well back to wood burn so i can fix my car)
 
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 03:25 AM
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when my starter was bad friends pushed my car to start, I drow to work and parken her on a hill.

Yeah, oil kills starters... but are you really sure strter is bad...? I had corrozed wire.

Well, pull starter out... 3 bolts, 2 nuts, 2 wires... Try to take it apart and see what is inside.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 03:27 AM
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ouh... to change a starter is about 20 minutes for me. I have car lifter on work, but prefere to do it from hitch. but you need about a hour ore more to wash yourself after work.. :-)))
 
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 09:29 AM
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3.0's are on the pas side right? My 4.0 is on the driver side. Word of caution. This even has happened to me and i can't swear that i won't pull this stunt again for i tend to be of the excitable type. "DON'T" bring the weight of the starter down to hang onto its electrical lines. Guess what? It can't pull out and then you've got a conductivity problem then.

What Pablo said was cool. Manual tranny's? Yep-been there did that. 20 years ago on a pigeon run through Louisiana. Had to park the truck up a hill for the motel and then drive all day not even turning the truck off at the fuel pump until I could get into somewhere that was modern enough to sell me a starter.

Another world another story. I'll spare you this time.

Hope everyones 4th festivities have been great with their families. I'm home this time, but my son is in Baghdad. He comes home in Oct. I don't really know how my wifey does it. She is my ROCK.---Peace Boz
 
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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My fourth was great! went up to lewisville state park for a bbq, then came home and lit off some fireworks (i suprised my mom/sister/grandma by buying a bunch of fireworks on the way home). thanks pablo - i know it will go easy and wont take long now. i was worried it would take like two hours to get it done. and would be really hard to do.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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You should always disconnect the negative terminal on the battery before any kind of electrical work.

The wire from the ignition switch going to the starter can be pushed off of its starter terminal with a large screwdriver. Then you can remove the heavy positive cable with a 1/2" or 13mm wrench. The starter is with 2 bolts to the bell housing. If you have a 4wd, you need to remove that front drive shaft first to get at those parts. After you remove the starter, you can try to test it with jumper cables. Since your starter is doing nothing but clicking now, try to turn the motor by hand to some different positions, and see if you can get it to run with the jumper cable. If it runs, hit it a few times to let it stop in different positions to see if you can get it to that point where it won't start to turn by itself.

One other thing you can check is the connection of the heavy positive cable. It's attached the stud on the body of the starter, and sometimes that stud comes loose from the cable shaking around. In order to tighten the stud, you generally need to get into the starter. If you're getting into the starter, you might want to try to clean out or replace the brushes.

When you're ready to assemble again, try this with the heavy positive cable: Find a thin wrench to hold the nut that tightens the stud to the starter body while using another wrench to tighten the nut onto the cable lug. This way, you can apply a strong torque on it for a good connection without disturbing the stud mount.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 01:07 PM
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I will probably tear apart and rnr my old starter after i get a new one... even w a warrenty 114.95 is too much for me to afford incase this happens again
 
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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DCRB:

You can buy a starter rebuild kit from Checker. Its make by Victory Lap and includes the bearing, bushing, brushes and a few other minor pieces. For around $15-20 you can easily rebuild that expensive starter. I used said kit years ago and its still going. This kit is not stocked in all stores for some odd reason, so you may have to do a little searching.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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tear the starter apart first and make sure communtator is not damaged beyond an emery cloth smooth up. most are heavily grooved and worn down too far by 150k miles for a kit job.
make sure the starter mounted pull in solenoid is working. it's the majority of cost of a new/rebuilt. $70.

know someone with a small machine shop or lathe, have them turn and polish the communtator.

use a dab of high temp wheel bearing grease on the bushings, match head size on each NO MORE
 
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 02:38 AM
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Got the starter installed today. just like you guys said, it was EASY! old one was seized up (i'm guessing some bearings went bad or someting) and smelled like burnt electrical stuffs and sounded hollow, and rattled. slapped the new one on, tightened down all connectors, and it started RIGHT up.

so lets see... ad a starter to the list and i've got:

new remanufactured alternator
NEW waterpump
new remanufactured starter
new thermostat
new upper rad hose
new brakes front and rear.

oh and my van feels like it just runs better w 5w30
 
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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Nice DCRB,

Know what it adds up to? Problem + Repair=by ourselves / saving money?

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Your posts are great! Keep up the good work!
 
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