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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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Ok guys, 2002 F250 4x4 and I am experiencing front end vibration at various road speeds with the front hubs in the auto position, however, when I put the hubs in lock the vibration goes away. Any ideas before I have to take this thing back to the stealership for diagnostic?
 
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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I can only think that locking the axle creates some kind of drag, so perhaps your starting to see hub bearing failure or your tie rods are getting loose. Let's start with some basics, how many miles are on the truck? How long have you noticed it?

For diagnostics, I'd start by getting under the truck and wiggling things. You shouldn't be able to deflect the steering linkage by hand. Jack up the axle and wiggle the tire in all directions, the tire shouldn't move much if at all.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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does it happen when u hit a bump or after? the same thing happened to me and it turned out i had a bad hub and a bad axle

i didnt take care of it right away so eventually i lost my 4x4 and also had vaccuum issues.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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The truck has 113000 miles on it. The vibration starts and stops when I hit bumps in the road. I also had the hubs replaced 15 months ago. And 4wd does not seem to engage unless hubs are locked. I don't see anything obviously loose but I haven't thoroughly checked it out yet.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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Just the locking portion or the whole hub bearing assembly?

If you haven't had the front end replaced, it's probably about due. (Including ball joints)
 
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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just the locking portion I believe. And the front suspension with all ball joints done less than 20000 miles ago.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 07:36 AM
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It's the needle bearing inside the wheel bearing where the axle stub rides. This is a common symptom - hit a bump in the road, the vibration starts. Lock the hubs and it totally stops happening.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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the bearing and hub assembly then?
 
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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or can just the needle bearing be replaced?
 
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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The needle bearing itself CAN be replaced, it's a Federal Mogul B-2110 number.

You just can't buy the bearing itself from Ford - actually, you probably could with the right part number, but their computer doesn't call out the needle bearing as a seperate item for the SD's.

Beware, check the axle stub - if the bearing is really bad, it ruins the area on the axle stub where the bearing rides. I had to "recondition" one of mine when the bearing dried up. I was able, with 600 wet-dry paper (after hitting it with 120 and 240) and was able to clean it up pretty good. It's still going 4 years later.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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thanks, I will give it a go
 
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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I finally got my bearings and I was wondering how the needle bearing comes out. Is it pressed in or do you just tap it out?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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I'm going to assume you meant "got my bearings OFF" ???

Using a punch/drift, just go around tapping it with a small hammer and it'll walk right out. Be careful putting the new ones in, you can bend the race pretty easily.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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I have the same symptoms, vibration comes and goes with hitting a bump in the road, manually lock hubs only and it quits.
I obviously don't want to by hubs if I don't need them but my question is that if the needle bearings are bad does that mean that the hub is not far behind?

Thanks
 
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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No, just the needle bearings are bad or dry. HOWEVER if you let it go too long, you may ruin the axle stubs.

The HUBS are not at fault, just the needle bearings - they are a $15-20 item, but lots of work to get to.
 
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