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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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axle seals !!!!!!

Trying to find the rear axle seal for my 2005 f-350 truck. I have been to every parts store in town and called most all out of town. No one and I mean no one has them. Every one says they do by computer but it is too small. Every ford dealer in 75 miles does not have them either. My gosh a 2005 truck and no one has seals ??? Not sure what ford ahs done, maybe I have an odd ball truck and rear end but they sure have goofed up big time. My truck is torn down now and no parts. Guess the search will start online for an over night shippment. Any one else have this problem ????
 
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 07:54 AM
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Do you have a dually or SRW? Id just order one from rockauto.com if I couldnt get it anywhere local.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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Specifically what seal are you talking about. I buy axle seals all the time for our trucks and they are on the shelf items at the dealer...............if you are looking for seals, look for the "slinger" too.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 03:49 PM
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Found them

Finally found them. A dealer about 50 miles away. No other dealers had them or any parts store. Must be dealer only. Too bad all the dealers don't carry them. This place said they do a bunch of these on oil field trucks. I am taking the ford part number to my local parts stores to see if they can match with anything in the future. Thanks for all the help. It is an oil bath set up not grease.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by weldude
It is an oil bath set up not grease.
If it is at all like the 06 rear wheel bearings you need to pack them TRUST ME. I have been through this and seen what happens when you don't pack them. One would think that a full float rear end is an oil bath, but it is not. You will notice that the bearings are cone and cup style, not roller like the f-150 rear ends. The cone and cups are outside of the primary axle tube and do not get lubricated effectively by the oil inside the axle tube. They need to be heavily packed just like you would pack the front bearings on a 2x4.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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Oh no

well that is just great now that I have it all back together. I know there was absolutly no old style wheel bearing greae in them from the factory. Just oil no sign of any grease. I rubbed some on the bearings just to keep them in place while I was re installing but really did not pack them. I did fill the inside hub area up with syn oil and then filled the diff all the way to the plug hole. The ford tech book did not say anything about packing with grease either ? Hmmmm
 
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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Its up to you. Just know this. If you pull those hubs off again, you better have another set of wheel seals. Removing the hub seems to destroy the seal.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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From my Haynes Manual:

"Prior to installation, pack the inner and outher wheel bearings with high temperature grease or equivalent. If you do not have access to a bearing packer, pack each bearing carefully by hand and make sure the entire bearing is filled with grease.

Install the newly packed inner wheel bearing into the hub. Install a new hub inner seal with a suitable drive tool being careful not to damage the seal.

Install the rear disc onto the hub

Prior to installing the wheel hub, coat the inner seal lip with grease. Also, cover the spindel with a light coat of grease. Pour one ounce of differential lubricant into the center of the hub. Carefully slid the hub and disc assembly over the spindle, being very careful so as not to caontact hte spinde with the seal(which would damage it).

Install the newly packed outer wheel bearing over the spindel and into the wheel hub.

Install the hub nut, making sure the tab is alligned in the keyway slot.

Start the nut while applying inward pressure to the socket, then tighten the nut to 70ft-lbs. Rotate the hub occasionally while tightening the locknut.

Back the locknut off 90 degrees, then tighten it to 15 to 20 ft-lbs.

After the final torque, the endplay should be zero and the maximum torque to rotate the hub should be no greater than 20 in-lbs. "

I assembled my first one in the same manner as you did with no grease and the bearing heated up and welded the inner race to the spindle in less than a mile, forcing the wheel to lock up solid. Had to cut the darn thing off with a blowtorch. The second one, I did not put diff lube in the center as these instructions say, I just greased the bejeezus out of it and it seems to be functioning properly over 10k later.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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they get a oil bath from the gear lube. if the level is not high enough, then they will starve. i do put a little grease on them sometimes but mostly soak them in gear oil before reistalling them.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Oh boy

Man, I am unsure what to do now. I do know there where no traces what so ever of any kind of grease other than gear lube in it from Ford. I did rub quite a bit of grease on the bearings and then the required gear lube etc... As far as the nut goes I did like the Ford manual said if re using the bearings. I tightened it while rotating it then backed it off 7 clicks as the ratched nut was designed. I sure hope this all works fine. I see the last reply was from a Ford Master Tech that uses gear oil. I guess I will take my chances. If it works like it is designed it should get plenty of oil to keep everything running ok. I figured I would run it a mile or so then check level of gear lube in diff to make sure it is still high and where it should be at. Wish me luck....
 
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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Bowtie what is your opinion on this ? Grease them some and then install or pack them like crazy. I think either way should be fine but sure wonder on the grease amount. Thanks
 
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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I had problems finding the spindle hub seal for my 2000 4x4 F-250. Also had the same problem with my 95 Bronco.
Dealer kept giving me the wrong part on the Bronco. They couldn't find the part for the Superduty. They said I had to buy the hub assembly. The guys just dont know there parts. Nether did any parts stores. (Kragen,Napa,Autozone)
I found the spindle hub seal for my truck on-line at Riverside Gear. They shipped them right away.
I damaged one and needed another. I took the damaged one to the dealer and said I need one of thease!
They said oh yeh we got those!
You guys couldn't get me the part last week so I orderd some form back east.
The hub seals from Riverside Gear where alot cheaper than the dealer.
Later I did some reseach and found my parts at the NAPA web site!

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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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like i said, i mostly just soak mine in gear lube and top off diff fluid and go on about my buisness.
 
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