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Old Jun 21, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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Performance mods for 05 V10

I just bought an 05 F350 V10 auto SD SC SB and I was wondering what the first mods I should do to it. I will be using it to haul my 2 race trucks to events all over Nova Scotia and 1 Event in PEI. I will be sand dragging this unit as well.

I was looking on Summit for a few things like a cold air intake, mass air flow assy's and computer programmers.

I am hoping you folks can point me in the right direction on the stuff that works the best.

Thanking you all in advance,

Mark
 
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Old Jun 21, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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I'd start off with the exhaust, headers, Y-pipe, cat back, then move on to a programer. If thats still not enough 4.30 gears or higher(depends on tire diameter) in the diff if it doesn't have already. If your still greedy for power cams, well if you've gone this far you might as well just put the nail in the coffin and get a supercharger or a turbocharger... More power? upgrade your drive terrian first

but seriously the ebay headers and Y-pipe are getting a thumbs up around here, some say they get drone but that whats the stereo's for as for cat back I my self was leaning towards gibbson, tuner hands down SCT but diablo is exceptional as well. Cams only one place I know that does v10 compcams as for which grind you'll need callem up tell them what mods you have done or plan to do and what your using the truck for.

turbo chargers are going to be a one off as there are no kits, superchargers there's vortec unpreffered due to poor tq gains and were there located on the power band, there's ken bell unluckly there don't make them any more

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Old Jun 21, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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Gear's are #1 thing !
the V-10 likes GEAR !
 
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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Some one correct me if I am mistaken. I was under the impression that aftermarket performance products were pretty limited over all when it came to the V-10. There are a few more options for the V-10 2v than the 3v motor. And that pretty much any additional HP found on the 3v came at a pretty hefty dollar per HP added equation.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 07:33 AM
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We played with our V10 on the dyno in April. Stock vs. 93 octane calibrations no other changes 20 minutes between runs, stock truck. Biggest gains we seen were from 3000-3800 rpm's over the factory stock calibration. Peak to Peak numers were smaller but still good gains but they were out at 4400-5500rpm's. Also, there is a lot HP loss in the powertrain in this 4wd V10 at least thats what we seen that day.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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So what were the gains? From what I have read as for HP increase number gained for a programmer it has always appeared that the HP/TQ gains were pretty small, which made the gain come at a pretty high price per HP gain. Now I don't argue some of the other benifits of a programmer such as ability to change shift points or remove the rev limiter.
But for those of us with a manual the shift benifit doesn't exist, which brings me back to the bang for buck equation.
I also used to be a big beliver in Cold Air Intake Systems, however it now seems that maybe Ford has gotten better at designing this area from OEM as a standard.
Of course, maybe I had just gotten spoiled back in my 7.3 PSD days where a tuner for $300 could add in excess of 100 HP. Now that was cheap HP/TQ.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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What gearing do you have? Proper gearing, a free flowing exhaust/muffler and a Custom tune from 5 Star (SCT) would be the few mods on the list for the 3V, in my book.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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05's don't need the y-pipe, they got a redesigned exhaust.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jonrjen
So what were the gains? From what I have read as for HP increase number gained for a programmer it has always appeared that the HP/TQ gains were pretty small, which made the gain come at a pretty high price per HP gain. Now I don't argue some of the other benifits of a programmer such as ability to change shift points or remove the rev limiter.
But for those of us with a manual the shift benifit doesn't exist, which brings me back to the bang for buck equation.
I also used to be a big beliver in Cold Air Intake Systems, however it now seems that maybe Ford has gotten better at designing this area from OEM as a standard.
Of course, maybe I had just gotten spoiled back in my 7.3 PSD days where a tuner for $300 could add in excess of 100 HP. Now that was cheap HP/TQ.

Let me say this before posting numbers "Results may deviate based on tire sizes and gearing ect.." And your right about those 7.3 PSD they were fun and had the bang for the buck going for them.

Our truck has 105,000 miles so its broke in 4.10 gear
Peak to Peak gains over stock; we seen 4000 rpm & up
rwhp 24
rwtq 38

Down low gains over stock ;we seen some great tq improvements, which i noticed with our 5th wheel...

3200 rpm
rwhp-46
rwtq-75

3400 rpm
rwhp-38
rwtq-60

3600 rpm
rwhp-35
rwtq-53

3800 rpm
rwhp-26
rwtq-44


Torque Peaks
stock 4000 rpm
93 calibration 3300 rpm

Now i am not here to debate these numbers they are what they are, i do not want to start a war here, these are just our results that we achieved in April.


So to answer Marks question and as supeRobertduty mentioned Gears and a flash programmer are good gains for minimal money in our book here.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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I have to admitt, resprectable gains, maybe I need to give you a shout.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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[quote=fordmdb;6276059]

3200 rpm
rwhp-46
rwtq-75

3400 rpm
rwhp-38
rwtq-60

3600 rpm
rwhp-35
rwtq-53

3800 rpm
rwhp-26
rwtq-44


Torque Peaks
stock 4000 rpm
93 calibration 3300 rpm

quote]

Very nice gains in the RPM range that will be used towing! I played around with a 454 enough to know that that would be very noticable. I really like the lower RPM of the torque peak.

Hav you done any tuning on a '08 yet?
 
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by fordmdb
Let me say this before posting numbers "Results may deviate based on tire sizes and gearing ect.." And your right about those 7.3 PSD they were fun and had the bang for the buck going for them.

Our truck has 105,000 miles so its broke in 4.10 gear
Peak to Peak gains over stock; we seen 4000 rpm & up
rwhp 24
rwtq 38

Down low gains over stock ;we seen some great tq improvements, which i noticed with our 5th wheel...

3200 rpm
rwhp-46
rwtq-75

3400 rpm
rwhp-38
rwtq-60

3600 rpm
rwhp-35
rwtq-53

3800 rpm
rwhp-26
rwtq-44


Torque Peaks
stock 4000 rpm
93 calibration 3300 rpm

Now i am not here to debate these numbers they are what they are, i do not want to start a war here, these are just our results that we achieved in April.


So to answer Marks question and as supeRobertduty mentioned Gears and a flash programmer are good gains for minimal money in our book here.
And I keep getting told by several "respectable" members here that I'm stupid for claiming a large power gain with a tune on a V10. Some people actually know what they're talking about,no matter how many have reported otherwise.
JL
 
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Langton
And I keep getting told by several "respectable" members here that I'm stupid for claiming a large power gain with a tune on a V10. Some people actually know what they're talking about,no matter how many have reported otherwise.
JL
What members? Captchas did a lot of tuning on his 3-valve V10 and didn't see much in the peak numbers change. And I don't think he was running 93 octane either. The torque-limiting programming was the biggest factor if I remember correctly.

With 87 octane, those gains would be much smaller. If any.

It's also the first time anyone actually posted REAL NUMBERS.

If you don't have real numbers and just your word, we won't believe you

Matter of fact, fordmdb, where are the printouts from the dyno? And I don't see where you posted the year - 3-valve? Or 2-valve?
 
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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I would assume it's the '05 in his sig.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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I always knew premium gas yielded good gains, but those are very impressive.
 
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