Notices
1999 - 2016 Super Duty 1999 to 2016 Ford F250, F350, F450 and F550 Super Duty with diesel V8 and gas V8 and V10 engines
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Real Truck

Improve your brake feel.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 9, 2008 | 08:48 PM
  #1  
Monsta's Avatar
Monsta
Thread Starter
|
Sit. Stay.
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 18,308
Likes: 20
From: Washington State
Club FTE Silver Member

Improve your brake feel.

I've not been real happy with the brake feel. It's a bit spongy or rather, take a bit more pedal to initiate the brakes. I was reading the F-150 forum and stumbled across a fix. ( https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...-resolved.html )

Here's the scoop.

Remove the Master Cylinder from the booster by removing the two 14mm nuts.



Pull the assembly off the booster WITHOUT disconnecting ANYTHING! You will need to split your air cleaner housing to create room for it to pull off. I put the assembly on the passenger side bolt using the driver's side hole.

You'll reveal a shaft with a threaded rod coming out of it.



Hold the shaft with pliers or something...gently! Use a 7mm closed end wrench to back the rod out. Mine came out nearly 2 turns until I was happy with the pedal feel. Too far and it will actuate your brakes all the time, so do it in 1/2 to 3/4 turn increments. Take it for a drive up and down the driveway to test.

It took me 3 tries but now my brakes feel SOLID! This was a 20 minute mod. This is in the V10 forum because I don't know if it is applicable to PSD powered trucks.
 
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2008 | 12:16 AM
  #2  
Monster-4's Avatar
Monster-4
Logistics Pro
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,974
Likes: 18
From: Millersburg, OH
Nice! I'll be trying that this weekend. I just bought Russell braided brake lines to improve the feel (and just because I like the look ). I'll try this mod first and then the brake lines.
 
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2008 | 12:13 PM
  #3  
krewat's Avatar
krewat
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 42,561
Likes: 423
From: Long Island USA
Club FTE Gold Member
But it DOES apply to 5.4L trucks!

Moved to the SD forum.
 
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2008 | 12:16 PM
  #4  
JKBrad's Avatar
JKBrad
Moderator
Veteran: Army
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 8,226
Likes: 1,239
From: San Antonio, TX
Club FTE Gold Member
Excellent find. I've never liked the pedal feel on mine. I'll try it tomorrow, last chance I'll have before we go to....Hawaii. Not visiting the big isalnd though. PM me for any must see locations. Oh yeah, rep points your way.
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 02:26 PM
  #5  
Mmaxed's Avatar
Mmaxed
Senior User
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 446
Likes: 2
Might not be the same on your '08 Brad. My '08 has crappy brake feel unless you give them a quick pump, then it's got great feel and progression.

Had it to the dealer in Dec and they said it was computer programming. That the computer now controls the brakes. Ford was working on a fix.

Back to the dealer last week. Now they have a new booster on order. I'd heard good things about this dealers service dept but I'm starting to wonder.
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 02:33 PM
  #6  
Kep4's Avatar
Kep4
Jäger
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,491
Likes: 5
From: Northern Arizona
Thanks Monsta! I'll have to try that out. Rep 2U.

Now, about the wishy-washy cruise control...
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 02:37 PM
  #7  
khadma's Avatar
khadma
Carpenter Local 745
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 5,794
Likes: 11
From: on da beach
Club FTE Silver Member

I wonder if this is a similar fix for the 07 Explorers.

I tried looking for the TSB, but I could not find it on the FTE TSB section.

I do not like the soft feel in my Explorer.
With this, I may still do another TSB search elsewhere.
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 02:47 PM
  #8  
krewat's Avatar
krewat
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 42,561
Likes: 423
From: Long Island USA
Club FTE Gold Member
If you pump the brakes and they get better, it's either air, or too much clearance at the pads from a wobbly rotor or bearing.

Or not, I'm not batting a 1000 lately...
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 03:21 PM
  #9  
JKBrad's Avatar
JKBrad
Moderator
Veteran: Army
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 8,226
Likes: 1,239
From: San Antonio, TX
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Mmaxed
Might not be the same on your '08 Brad. My '08 has crappy brake feel unless you give them a quick pump, then it's got great feel and progression.

Had it to the dealer in Dec and they said it was computer programming. That the computer now controls the brakes. Ford was working on a fix.

Back to the dealer last week. Now they have a new booster on order. I'd heard good things about this dealers service dept but I'm starting to wonder.
If I appply the brakes hard a few times, I'll get better pedal feel, but it wont last long. In my opinion, there is too much travel in the pedal. When my daughter drove it the other day, she thought it required too much pedal effort. My '05 would stop on a dime and give you change.

This trick is worth a try. If it doesn't work, no big deal. The only thing it will cost is about 30 minutes of my time.
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 04:36 PM
  #10  
Mmaxed's Avatar
Mmaxed
Senior User
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 446
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by krewat
If you pump the brakes and they get better, it's either air, or too much clearance at the pads from a wobbly rotor or bearing.

Or not, I'm not batting a 1000 lately...
Too much clearance is exactly what it feels like. It's like a older rig with drum brakes that the shoes weren't adjusted up properly. Had to pump them once to get them to the drums.

Brad, on mine if you just push the pedal once it takes more pedal travel and more preasure to stop good. After the quick pump the brakes are great. Best I've ever had even. Don't have time for the pump when you really need the brakes though. Hope they can get it right without too many tries.
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 04:59 PM
  #11  
krewat's Avatar
krewat
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 42,561
Likes: 423
From: Long Island USA
Club FTE Gold Member
I know what you mean... Thinking about it, it could still be the pushrod like Monsta posted... there's always some "dead pedal" even without any slack that comes up when you pump 'em.
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 05:19 PM
  #12  
Monsta's Avatar
Monsta
Thread Starter
|
Sit. Stay.
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 18,308
Likes: 20
From: Washington State
Club FTE Silver Member

My initial contact was soft. A quick stab at the pedal and a subsequent braking action provided better feel. With this mod I now simply touch the pedal and the brakes actuate. It now feels like the subsequent brake feel after the quick stab. MUCHO better!

Thanks for the rep points.
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 08:31 PM
  #13  
98SurplusExpy's Avatar
98SurplusExpy
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 422
Likes: 0
From: N. Carolina
I just bled mine the 'ole fashion way, except with the truck running. All is nice 'n firm now
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:01 PM
  #14  
LaredoF350's Avatar
LaredoF350
Postmaster
20 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,461
Likes: 0
From: Saskatoon, SK
Good info - if anyone tries it on a diesel let the rest of us know.
 
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 10:31 AM
  #15  
edjunior's Avatar
edjunior
Cargo Master
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,243
Likes: 79
From: Roman Forest, TX
This looks great. My wife complained about the brakes the first and only time she drove the truck. But this looks interesting. What exactly is this "threaded rod", and what is it doing that by rotating it, the brake pedal play gets better? I'm probably going to try it anyway, but just curious what all is happening "behind the scenes"!
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:55 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE