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Old May 31, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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Timing!

Ok so I have to do the timing on my truck, I know it has to be with a regular driving temp engine, but I also know we are suppose to connect or disconnect something....???? what do I have to do? please I now my timing is too retarded but I dont know how to bring it up to speed?! thank you

Andre. F 250 mazda 5 speed 4x4 3.55
 
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Old May 31, 2008 | 12:20 AM
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You need to find and locate the spout connector. When you pull this connector, you essentially tell the computer to go back to base timing. My truck is not here right now, or I'd have a look under the hood, but if memory serves me correctly, the spout connector is located close to the distributor and has a grey plug in an electrical connector. Pull this plug, then time the engine according to the decal under the hood. Before you get too far into the timing job, clean the area around the hold down bolt is and where the bottom of the distributor contacts the manifold as sometimes there will be a lot of dirt there and it will seem like the distributor is seized in place. Oh ya, don 't forget to replace the spout connector when you're done!
 

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Old May 31, 2008 | 07:03 AM
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It depends on the year - 87-91 the SPOUT connector is near the distributor, 92-up the SPOUT connector is near the driver side hood spring mount on the fender.
 
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Old May 31, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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A couple of things I don't see in the topic yet.

1. Look at the numbers on your balancer and clean them up if needed. Get some white-out or chalk and mark the 10*BTDC line.
2. Use a timing light!
3. Here is a picture of what the SPOUT connector looks like.

4. You'll want to set your timing to 10*BTDC (helps when you have it marked on the balancer with chalk or white-out so you can see it much easier from the top with the timing light)
 
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Old May 31, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sconut1
You need to find and locate the spout connector. When you pull this connector, you essentially tell the computer to go back to base timing. My truck is not here right now, or I'd have a look under the hood, but if memory serves me correctly, the spout connector is located close to the distributor and has a grey plug in an electrical connector. Pull this plug, then time the engine according to the decal under the hood. Before you get too far into the timing job, clean the area around the hold down bolt is and where the bottom of the distributor contacts the manifold as sometimes there will be a lot of dirt there and it will seem like the distributor is seized in place. Oh ya, don 't forget to replace the spout connector when you're done!

When you mean replace the connector do you mean get a new one or put it back in place?
 
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Old May 31, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dre82s
When you mean replace the connector do you mean get a new one or put it back in place?
Put the jumper back into place.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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Excactly. Put the connector back in place
 
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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Sorry to hop on post, but related question. Do the 5.0's respond to more timing as well as they do in Mustangs (mine really perked up at 13) or just ping themselves to death?
 
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Could someone show a pic. of balancer with numbers showing?
 
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mstngmikegt
Sorry to hop on post, but related question. Do the 5.0's respond to more timing as well as they do in Mustangs (mine really perked up at 13) or just ping themselves to death?
Most people on here can run 12* before it starts to ping (some higher than that). Just set it for 12* and listen carefully for pinging. If you don't hear any you can bump it up some more and listen again for ping. Each engine is a little different on how much advance they can take (I'm stuck at 10* due to carbon issues).
 
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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A hotter coil, plugs gapped to .55", and timing advanced to 13.5 BTDC(with spout disconnected). Most 5.0's can handle this with noticeable throttle improvement. Best results are obtained, obviously, with a well tuned engine from the start. Learned this nifty trick on another Ford forum.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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i was told that if you set the timming to 12 or 13.5 btdc you should run hi octan gas with the hoter coils and the bigger gap with a msde box with the ford racing 9mm wires i set the timming in my93 to 12 btdc and found great responce in the skinny petel but gas cost too much and i like too keep my foot in it
 
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 11:01 PM
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BTDC is that before top dead center? meaning it would be 10* ' ' ' ' 0* ' ' ' '10*' ' ' ' 20*!

And the mark would be on the 10* to the left or right of the 0*
 
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Dre82s
Ok so I have to do the timing on my truck, I know it has to be with a regular driving temp engine, but I also know we are suppose to connect or disconnect something....???? what do I have to do? please I now my timing is too retarded but I dont know how to bring it up to speed?! thank you



how do you know the timing i too retarded?
 
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 09:18 AM
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The 10 and 20 are on the BTDC side of 0. The engine rotates clockwise looking at the front of it, so those numbers get to the pointer ahead of 0, or BTDC.
 
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