Yes, but the competition ( Toyota and Nissan ) that is utilizing an OHC design, it's in a DOHC configuration. I'm not talking the exact motor in the Cobra R, but something as easy as different cams can make a world of difference for a truck motor....

 

Funny you mention that, for the first time I actually took my truck in to get the plugs changed because there was no way in hell I was wasting my time on trying to do it myself.

First vehicle I've owned that I haven't done this myself. $325 buck later...

 

It's actually not as hard as it looks if you have the right tools. Basicly some extensions and u-joints. I'd say I can do in 1-1.5 hours.

But to be honest, I'm getting tired of doing the maintance on my vehicles myself. All the routine crap is probably going to start going to the shop. Things like oil changes.

Mike

 

Just because an engine is DOHC doesn't mean it's a high revver. And vice versa - OHV pushrod doesn't mean lazy low revver.

Look at the Titan, it's a torque monster down low, but runs out of steam before the pushrod HEMI. On the other hand, you have the gigantic 7.0L LS7 that Chevy somehow made it to rev a stratospheric 7000 rpm.

 

320 HP and 390 Tq.........No thanks!! I'll wait for the 6.2 or look at the new dodge.

 

Ford really needs to figure out how to extend the torque range of the engine.

The current 5.7 HEMI has 375 ft-lbs at about 4400 RPM, and hits about 345HP @ 5400 RPM. Those RPM numbers sound high compared to the 5.4, but when you'll look at the horsepower and torque curves, you'll see that hemi is putting out about 300 ft-lbs @ 1200 RPM, and maintains that all the way up to 4400 RPM.

The new HEMI puts out 380HP and 404 ft-lbs with a similar torque and power curve to the old HEMI

 

That 6 speed transmission is gonna be be sweet compared to what they have now. I think the gear spread is gonna be a much bigger factor than the slight engine bump.

 

I think it's fine in the power and torque department.

With gas costs these days, even people who normally would not think about gas costs are now starting to say "Gee, $90 plus for a fillup. *ouch".

So, just because a truck has 380 hp or 450+ lbs of torque now, I think it's going to become immaterial and a moot point, unless you're towing a serious load (equipment, 5th wheel, camper) on a regular basis and you NEED that kind of power on a regular basis.

If somebody just occasionally tows a light boat or trailer, it makes absolutely no sense from a $$ perspective to spring for a 380 hp engine.

There is a difference between WANT and NEED, in my book anyway. I'm sure other people feel differently, or at least they will until they get to the gas station and fill up.

 

Well, if the Triton really does get better mileage than the competition, then the low hp is acceptable, but it doesn't. The same thing with my Explorer's 4.0 - every competition destroys it in power, but mileage wise they're all equal.

Easy to see why - the thermal efficiency of all comparable gasoline engines (by displacement) are similar. Mileage is more a function of vehicle mass and aero drag. The f150 is heavy and doesn't quite have class leading aero.

 

Can you explain why you need more? What are you towing or hauling with your truck?

 

I think a lot of people feel that if your going to get V-8 Gas mileage, And They ARE ALL Close to the same these days.

Why not get the most H.P and Torque out of the deal ?

FORD has no options ,All Auto V-8 Line up that does nothing GREAT ! all are average at best.
How about a High H.p V-8 with class leading power and a Stick 6 Cyc with class leading mileage?. How can all those Big Bucker's at FORD justify NO effort.

 

You know gas is to expensive when it hurts to fill up your lawnmower...

 

Exactly. If a Ranger 4.0 and an F350 V10 get within 3-4 MPG of each other, then what's the point?

Same with the 1/2 ton V8s. They all get crap mileage and from what I've heard, Ford has always been at the bottom of MPG as well. Might as well get the powerhouse of the 1/2 tons and at least be able to have fun with it.

Mike

 

Yep. spent over $13.00 to fill up my lawn and garden tractor and over $15.00 to fill my motorcycle last week with regular.

 

I know the feeling, at 4.30 a gallon here at our remote gas station (it's only 3.75 15mi. away in town..) it costs a little over 20$ to mow all 3.5 acres.