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Old May 1, 2008 | 08:01 AM
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Headers? Chip? ...? 302 Upgrade

I want to open up my old stock 302. I've installed a 2.25" true dual exhaust with no cats and glasspack mufflers. I've also installed 2 cone air filters, one for each throttle body. Now what? Should I go with a chip, or headers, or a cam...or what?
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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Headers and a cam.
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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Headers and a cam sound good, those two cone filters arent working as well as you would think. Probably sounds good though under WOT I would bet. They are doing nothing but picking up the hot turbulent air off of the radiator. The OE intake system was more of a cold air than what you have now. I would look at fabbing up a system to get the filters closer to cooler fresh air. If you really want to breathe better on the cheap, get a set of 87 up truck heads, the part # starts with E7TE. Then grind out the A.I.R humps in the exhaust ports.
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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If the glass packs you have are the louvered ones that stick down in the gas stream, then they are probably HURTING your performance.

Look for the ones that have the perforated holes in them. They are basically straight through, which are worse than something with a little back pressure
 
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Old May 4, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by uncle.stosh
If the glass packs you have are the louvered ones that stick down in the gas stream, then they are probably HURTING your performance.

Look for the ones that have the perforated holes in them. They are basically straight through, which are worse than something with a little back pressure
It's a 2.25" true dual system, which MUST be at least better than the stock, crimp bent, silent, single 2.25" system with 2 cats. The mufflers are glass packs with the louvers, which I understand aren't the best, but what kind of a gain am I looking at if I go buy different, better mufflers. And what kind of mufflers would provide the BEST performance for my application, at that?
 
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Old May 4, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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If your looking for big preformance gains dont waste you time with a muffler or simple cone air filters. The big preformance boosts come from heads, cam, intake, and to some degree headers. However, if your truck is FI you might run into some problems because I have heard that the stock computer doesnt take to well to alot of add on power parts.
 
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Old May 4, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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There's an Exhaust forum here you might be interested in....

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Old May 5, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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Obviously, I'm not looking for huge power gains, I just want a little more power. That said, what non-restrictive mufflers should I get to replace the current glass packs? Also, I definitely need to relocate my cone air filters for "cold air." All of this should add up to a nice little power gain.

How hard is it to put a cam in? And would my stock motor do well with a mild cam? With 4x4 I would probably need shorty headers, and they would bolt up to my downpipes. So, what headers and cam should I get?
 
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Old May 5, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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You may get 5-15 more horsepower with flowmaster (the best muffler in my opinion) and your "cold air" cone filters. If I were you I would put the money into the cam. An RV cam will get you a good amount of low end power and lots of torque.
 
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Old May 5, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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Is your 302 fuel injected - If so, it will be speed density controlled and bank fired injectors.

All of the items shown above are more applicable to a Mass Air Flow controlled fuel injection.

There is really not much you can do to a SD Fuel injection - except change it to a MAF.
 
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Originally Posted by Oscar Meier
Is your 302 fuel injected - If so, it will be speed density controlled and bank fired injectors.

All of the items shown above are more applicable to a Mass Air Flow controlled fuel injection.

There is really not much you can do to a SD Fuel injection - except change it to a MAF.
I have also heard the above is true. The computer speed density system can't compensate for very many modifications to the engine.

What rearend ratio and tranny do you have? If you are not too concerned about fuel mileage and highway driving, a gear change would give you the biggest bang for the buck as far as seat of the pants feel.
 
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If you don't mind tearing into the motor then a cam upgrade is the way to go, the CompCams 31-255-5 is SD EFI compatable and a nice upgrade. The stock y-pipe/cat assembly is the big cork in the exhaust system on these trucks, so plan on replacing this with an aftermarket or custom setup and headers. Longtubes are easily the best option and will provide the broadest power boost, but even shorties are an upgrade over the stock logs. Don't use mustang shorties on a truck however, the collectors are all wrong and will make fitting difficult.
 
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If you don't mind tearing into the motor then a cam upgrade is the way to go, the CompCams 31-255-5 is SD EFI compatable and a nice upgrade. The stock y-pipe/cat assembly is the big cork in the exhaust system on these trucks, so plan on replacing this with an aftermarket or custom setup and headers. Longtubes are easily the best option and will provide the broadest power boost, but even shorties are an upgrade over the stock logs. Don't use mustang shorties on a truck however, the collectors are all wrong and will make fitting difficult.
Long tubes would be a tight fit with 4x4, and I already have after market downpipes that would bolt right up to a set of shorties. Where can I get a nice set of shorties for cheap? I don't care how they look, so long as they add power and function.
 
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Old May 11, 2008 | 09:34 PM
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Red face what?

my SD 302 is getting rebuilt right now with a new cam and long tube Hedmans. The guy has built 4 of 'em and stands behind the setup
 
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Old May 12, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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What kind of cam? And is your truck 4x4? Wondering about the headers, and I want long tubes but don't know what's best to go with a 4x4.
 
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