Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

351W Help

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 26, 2008 | 01:00 AM
  #1  
htex01's Avatar
htex01
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Exclamation 351W Help

My truck has a 351W out of a 1978 Mustang in it now instead of the factory 302, which litterally melted down in 2000. I want to make the engine to High Performance, I need to know where I can find High Output Heads, Cams, Cranks, & Intake Manifolds. I know Jegs sells the stuff for a 302, but I'm not too sure about adding that stuff to a 351W. The truck right now has the factory 302 Intake manifold and injection system on it, but I am wondering, if I make it High Perforance, what all will I need to change, if any. Also I was wondering, can I put a 351W Fuel Injection system on it, with the 302 wiring harness and computer control module. Please let me know.
 
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2008 | 01:47 AM
  #2  
JJ98's Avatar
JJ98
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
From: Hanford Ca.
if iam right a 351 is just a stroke and a head change from a 302 butt go to you parts store and pick up how to build a ford small block book the hipo book it has a lot of info sound like that might help you on your way good look
 
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2008 | 02:22 AM
  #3  
Creel's Avatar
Creel
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
From: kcks area
If your going to change all those parts, your also going to need better fuel injectors and a better exhaust to really get any advantage of the other parts. Yes you can use the 351 FI system (as long as your new intake is FI), but you'll need the 351 control module, not the 302's. Bigger throttle body is a must too.

Fairly sure summitracing.com has many of the parts your looking for.
 
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2008 | 02:35 AM
  #4  
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy
Ford Parts Specialist
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 88,826
Likes: 787
From: Simi Valley, CA
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by htex01
My truck has a 351W out of a 1978 Mustang
No Mustang used a 351W engine after 1973 = none.

1974/78's are Mustang II's and only came with the 4 cylinder 2.3L, V6 2.8L and (1975/78) 302.
 
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2008 | 02:41 AM
  #5  
Creel's Avatar
Creel
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
From: kcks area
Originally Posted by NumberDummy
No Mustang used a 351W engine after 1973.

1974/78's are Mustang II's and only came with the 4 cylinder 2.3L, V6 2.8L and (1975/78) 302.

Sounds like your 351 is a 302.

Yuck! I drove one of those lame dog 78's with a 2.3L talk about a disapointment, cant believe they actually called it a mustang.
 
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2008 | 02:52 AM
  #6  
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy
Ford Parts Specialist
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 88,826
Likes: 787
From: Simi Valley, CA
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Creel
Sounds like your 351 is a 302.

Yuck! I drove one of those lame dog 78's with a 2.3L talk about a disapointment, cant believe they actually called it a mustang.
Mustang II = it's a Pinto under the skin.

What engine izit?

302 = the stroke is 3.00" / 351W = the stroke is 3.50"
 
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2008 | 03:13 AM
  #7  
Creel's Avatar
Creel
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
From: kcks area
Any numbers on the block he can check to see which moter it is?

Not to go off topic, but... Ford should have made the 2.8L the base motor in those II's not stick some anemic 4 banger in it, it's a mustang after all! Dont know why but II's make me think of Charlies Angels.
 
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2008 | 03:40 AM
  #8  
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy
Ford Parts Specialist
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 88,826
Likes: 787
From: Simi Valley, CA
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Creel
Any numbers on the block he can check to see which moter it is?

Not to go off topic, but... Ford should have made the 2.8L the base motor in those II's not stick some anemic 4 banger in it, it's a mustang after all! Dont know why but II's make me think of Charlies Angels.
Measuring the stroke is the only way to tell, because casting numbers cannot be cross referenced to part numbers.

Ford supplied all the cars for shows like Charlies Angels, Rockford Files, etc. Lorimar was the production company.

The dealer that supplied the cars for these TV shows was Walker-Buerge Ford, 11800 Santa Monica Blvd in West LA. It's just Buerge Ford today.

Charlies Angels: The office building where the cars were shown parked in front of, is on Little Santa Monica Blvd, south side of the street, 2 blocks west of Wilshire Blvd in Beverly Hills.

It's actually a medical building.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-3

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
Old Apr 26, 2008 | 10:20 AM
  #9  
Scndsin's Avatar
Scndsin
FTE Chapter Leader
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 12,342
Likes: 1,318
From: Central Mississippi
Club FTE Silver Member

Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Measuring the stroke is the only way to tell, because casting numbers cannot be cross referenced to part numbers.
If the 351 has a taller deck height which results in a wider lifter valley than a 302, why would measuring the stroke be the only way to tell?
 
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2008 | 06:26 PM
  #10  
Conanski's Avatar
Conanski
FTE Legend
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Community Builder
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 31,930
Likes: 1,499
From: Ottawa, Ontario
Originally Posted by htex01
The truck right now has the factory 302 Intake manifold and injection system on it,
I can tell you right now you don't have a 351 if you have a 302 intake on it, the 351 is about 3' wider across the lifter valley, so is won't bolt up.

There are lots of aftermarket performance parts available for both motors, heads, cam, and intake will take you well beyond the capability if the stock EFI system however, so this will also have to be ugraded. You didn't say what year year truck is?
 
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2008 | 07:53 PM
  #11  
htex01's Avatar
htex01
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
The only thing I know, is when my father purchased the motor back in 2000, when the POS 302 melted down, the guy he baught the 351W from, said it was out of a '78 Mustang. That does sound a little odd, because the only Mustangs with the V8, were the Boss 302's. I have owned 3, 302V8's, all of them, did not amount to a hill of anything. That is why we did away with them and stuck with the 351W. Now I have a question for you, if I wanted to put a 281, let's say out of a 60's model mustang in that truck, would it fit, especially with the EFI that's on it right now?

Originally Posted by NumberDummy
No Mustang used a 351W engine after 1973 = none.

1974/78's are Mustang II's and only came with the 4 cylinder 2.3L, V6 2.8L and (1975/78) 302.
 
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2008 | 08:05 PM
  #12  
htex01's Avatar
htex01
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Let me ask you all this, if you had a 1989 Ford F150 Regular Cab, Long bed with a 302, espescially a low speed rear end, what would y'all do, in order to up the horsepower and torque to for one save fuel and still get about the same amount of power? I don't know very much at all, when it comes to fuel injections, I know carburators and stuff like that, but I'm not much into the Ford's past '84. I do know this much, that in 1985 is when Ford started putting fuel injection systems in all of their vehicles. Because I had a 1985 Mercury Cougar XR7 Turbo coupe, that had a 2.3L4 that had a fuel injection on it.
 
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2008 | 12:05 AM
  #13  
Creel's Avatar
Creel
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
From: kcks area
Headers and flowmaster or similar exhaust system, high flow cat. Same or better mpg, and better power. Bonus they sound sweet and you dont need to change anything with the stock FI. Down side, getting the old exhaust manifolds off if you do it yourself.
 
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2008 | 11:24 AM
  #14  
Conanski's Avatar
Conanski
FTE Legend
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Community Builder
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 31,930
Likes: 1,499
From: Ottawa, Ontario
Originally Posted by htex01
Let me ask you all this, if you had a 1989 Ford F150 Regular Cab, Long bed with a 302, espescially a low speed rear end, what would y'all do, in order to up the horsepower and torque to for one save fuel and still get about the same amount of power?
When you say low speed rear end, do you mean low(numerically) gear ratio, like 2.73 or 3.08? If so you're fighting a battle you can't win with a small displacement engine. With a 289 or 302 the truck will putter around and get pretty good milage but it'll never be mistaken for sporty. The way to get performance with a small motor is with gears, if you have an OD tranny you can get away with as much as 4.10's, but without I wouldn't go beyond 3.55 for the sake of hwy milage.
The next thing I'd suggest is to swap the heads on the '78 302 you have for the late model E7TE heads found on nearly all SBF's after '87, this will bump compression slightly and improve airflow. Then you have to change the cam.. it's not helping, something like the CompCams 31-255-5 is a good upgrade and is EFI compatable. Combine all this with a decent exhaust system and the truck should return close to 20mpg at hwy cruise and mid teens city driving, and be a lot more fun to drive.
 
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:18 AM.

story-0
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-2
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE