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Mar 29, 2008 | 05:20 PM

Pacdaddy

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Manual OD Question

Okay, so the 352 in the truck runs strong. The three speed transmission works fine, too. (Save some adjustments...)

CAN I find a manual OD for it? If so, WHERE do I find one? Any part number or other distinguishing info would GREATLY help!

Last edited by Pacdaddy; Mar 29, 2008 at 05:21 PM. Reason: Wasn't finished with my question...Sorry!

Mar 29, 2008 | 09:59 PM

fordtrucksforever

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Here are three options. (1) NV 3550 (2) ZF (3)RTS. There should be several others that are easy enough. Unless you want the stock OD units that fit behind yur 3 speed.

Mar 30, 2008 | 02:51 AM

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There is no overdrive unit that will bolt behind the stock Ford type 3.03 3 speed all syncromesh transmission. Ford never made any such thing.

When overdrive is present in these trucks, it's the Borg Warner T-85N unit, with a non syncro first gear.

The Warner T85N's are scarce, but they can be found.

The problems are: the kickdown switch, which mounts on the firewall above the accelerator pedal, the O/D wiring harness, and the overdrive relay which bolts to the engine side of the firewall directly behind the carb are almost non existant, and without those parts, how will the unit function?

If the solenoid and/or governor are missing from the O/D unit, they are also very hard to find, especially in working order.

When the T-85N is in working order, over 20 MPG highway is easy to attain.

My trucks best highway MPG: 28.7.

Mar 30, 2008 | 03:29 PM

gritsngumbo

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Pacdaddy: Check the FTE classifieds. There's a T85 "complete with solenoid and governor" for sale. Don't know if it's an "N" or not but could be worth checking out.

Mar 30, 2008 | 09:14 PM

Pacdaddy

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Grits - Bigger question. I have a '68 Torino GT that I got a few months back. It doesn't have the numbers matching engine and tranny. It DOES have a 302 with an automatic tranny. How difficult was it to change over to the 302 Auto set up as in your truck? If not TOO difficult, I'd be willing to pull that motor and tranny from the Torino and put them in my truck.

Mar 31, 2008 | 02:37 AM

NumberDummy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pacdaddy

I have a '68 Torino GT that I got a few months back. It doesn't have the numbers matching engine and tranny.

How do you know the engine doesn't match the transmission?

Numbers matching is a GM thing.

Only the transmission's ID code is specific, and some codes were used for several years.

1968 & 1969 Fairlane/Torino C4 Trans ID numbers.

Column shift: PEE-V

Console shift: PEE-M

The engine ID tags are not model specific, and only list the following info:

Cubic inch displacement / engine plant code / year (NOT model) of vehicle engine was installed in / change in casting numbers (if applicable) / year and month the engine was assembled / engine code number = VIN engine code.

F = VIN engine code: 302 2V /1968/72 LTD - Fairlane/Torino - Mustang - Falcon (1968/70).

Mar 31, 2008 | 12:47 PM

Pacdaddy

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I meant numbers matching in the sense that the ORIGINAL engine and transmission has been removed from the Torino already. So it won't hurt the value of the Torino by taking the engine and transmission from it to put in my truck.

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Mar 31, 2008 | 04:57 PM

gritsngumbo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pacdaddy

I haven't done the swap yet. Been getting the 302 cleaned up and painted for the install. (No garage, I'm working under a pop-up shelter and when I've had time the weather has been bad, when it's been nice I've had real paying work to do) In doing so, twisted off a couple of bolts in the heads and one holding the water pump on. The block and heads are at the machine shop getting the studs removed. The install is supposed to be fairly easy (if there is such a thing). On the 302 into the 64 I will need a new motor mount and crossmember bracket and a crossmember for the tranny. I believe the mounts are already there in your truck.

I just picked up a rebuildable 292 with a 3 speed this weekend so I may rebuld it and put that in instead of the 302 to keep it more original, and I can still add PS and AC with aftermarket brackets for the 292.