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Old 03-27-2008, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FitchBanjos
Good info Bill !
Example: Illustration section 10 / page 1.

The stud is basic # 1107, shown just above the bearing cup.

This is a general illustration only, and was drawn in 1948 (note the hubcap style: 6A-1130-A used 1948/52 on F1's and 1947/48 cars), so some of the parts like the drums or hubs were not available separately on all models.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy

I've seen ppl here talk about driving out/in new studs with a hammer. When I read that...I cringe...that's not the correct way to do it! You'll never get the drum seated firmly to the hub doing it that-away!
Now why would anyone drive in or out "new" studs anyway. Press them in or draw then in when new. As for old studs the 5 lb.sledge was used to separate the hub from the drum. This was by an ex-seabee who said there was an easier way. He gave each stud one hit and separated the hub from drum just like that.Then a press was used to push out the old studs from the hub. Given the spectacular work he does in machining, welding, fabrication, restoring bomb elevators, aircraft elevators, aircraft cranes and their hydraulic systems I fully trust him to be careful and precise. Hell, this guy still has an 84 year old father, with one arm, who still runs his own ranch, puts up fencing and welds among other things.
 
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Originally Posted by tbm3fan
As for old studs the 5 lb.sledge was used to separate the hub from the drum.
That's all well and good if someone is experienced. But take a newbie with a claw hammer, he hits that stud, and instead of driving it straight out, the stud kinks or goes out at an angle. Now you have an oblong hole to deal with. What's the fix for that?
 
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I could use those drums, I am in Bluefield WV, could you e-mail me with instructions how to recieve them, pick up, shipping and would be glad to pay you for them. THANKS
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
That's all well and good if someone is experienced. But take a newbie with a claw hammer, he hits that stud, and instead of driving it straight out, the stud kinks or goes out at an angle. Now you have an oblong hole to deal with. What's the fix for that?
That is an easy one... either a new drum, a new hobby or a new brain. Next qustion
 
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I don't know whether this will help you sort out the problem with your '66, but I had a similar problem with my '64 F100. The parts manager at a local Carquest shop finally sorted out that the front drums on my truck were "composite drums" that were used only on Ford vans (E 100's?) of that vintage. Problem solved. Then I encountered a lug length problem, but that's another story.

I can provide part numbers for the drums, if you think that it might help.
 
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Originally Posted by graybubba
I don't know whether this will help you sort out the problem with your '66, but I had a similar problem with my '64 F100.

The parts manager at a local Carquest shop finally sorted out that the front drums on my truck were "composite drums" that were used only on Ford vans (E 100's?) of that vintage.
IF THEY ONLY FIT ECONOLINES, HOW THE HELL COULD FIT F100'S?

WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP...SHEESH!!
BULL CHIT!!

That Econoline info is TOTALLY false.

Econolines have completly different sized brakes, wheels, the whole tamale than F100's do.

An Econoline has a smaller bolt circle: 4.50"

F100 bolt circle: 5.50"

The Econoline front brakes are 10" x 2 1/2"

F100's are 11" x 2"

Econoline front Hub & Drum: C1UU-1102-A

F100 front Hub & Drum: C6TZ-1102-B

LOL! I'd like to see anyone just try to install a Econoline drum on an F100.

In three words: FRIGGEN IM POSSIBLE!!
 
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All I know is what the parts manager told me and it fixed my truck.....
 
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Originally Posted by graybubba
All I know is what the parts manager told me and it fixed my truck.....
The drums fit your truck because they were for F100's, not Econolines.

There's not one Econoline brake drum, front or rear made from 1961 thru 1974 that will fit any 1953/83 F100, or 1975/2008 F150. NONE!
The 1975/2008 Econoline rear drums won't fit 1953/72 F100's, either.

1973/ F100's have front disc brakes / 1975/ Econolines have front disc brakes.

I was a Ford partsman for 35 years, so I oughtta friggen know what fits and what doesn't.
 
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hmm something tells me Bill is chewing on his parts book with a crazed look then yelling at the computer monitor.
 
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Bill definately know his trade...question though...tweaking the topic a wee bit...does the E and F series drum tale hold true for the 3/4 or 1 ton 2wd rigs of similar era ???


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RockAuto (www.rockauto.com) also carries a couple drums which match the OEM number

RAYBESTOS Part # 1644R {Service Grade Outside Diameter 12.8" / 5 Bolts / Not Finned}
Front; Two Wheel Drive (4x2)
$34.79

RAYBESTOS Part # 1644 More Info {Professional Grade Outside Diameter 12.8" / 5 Bolts / Not Finned}
Front; Two Wheel Drive (4x2)
$77.79
 
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Originally Posted by camperspecial65
Bill definately know his trade...question though...tweaking the topic a wee bit...does the E and F series drum tale hold true for the 3/4 or 1 ton 2wd rigs of similar era ???
- cs65
There were no one ton (E300) Econolines till 1969.

There were no "true" 3/4 ton Econolines till 1975. 1969/74 E200's have 9" rear ends.

(There were no 1968 Econolines-Ford introduced the 1969 Econoline in February 1968, but called 'em 1969's).

1969/72 Hub & Drums (none fit 1961/67 F250/350's).

E200 = C8TZ-1102-C

F250 = C8TZ-1102-K

E300 & F350 = C8TZ-1102-J

1968/72 F250/350's offered optional dual piston caliper front discs, no Econoline had discs till 1975.

Don & Mark, rumors like this Econoline BS cause confusion and dis-appointment.

I'm not blaming the poster of this info, because he was only going by what some cluck told him.

The scenario:

Someone waltzes into their local autoparts store and orders drums for a Econoline, thinking they'll fit a F100.

The poor soul might even go so far as having new brake shoes sized to the new drums.

Then back to his garage he goes, and soon exclaims: "WTF! These won't fit!"
 
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Yeah, I hear ya Bill...I would have thought the same thing...but correct me if Im wrong...didnt the early Econolines have 14" wheels ??




As for the parts stores...I always whenever possible, take the old part in with tape measure to measure tit for tat...I hate repeat trips to the store for same part...rememeber my fuel pump mess last yr...



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Originally Posted by camperspecial65
correct me if Im wrong...didnt the early Econolines have 14" wheels ?? - cs65
Good call Don, I forgot about that.

1961/67 Econolines offered optional 14" wheels.

1961/66 Econolines came standard with 13" wheels.

Some 1965/67 Econolines (Super Vans) came with 15" wheels.
 


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