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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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EGR valve

On a '85 302 FI, I can hear my EGR valve flapping when the engine is around 2000 rpm. I am sure thats what is going on because I took the sensor off the top of it, and held a screw driver on it and it stopped. My question is what controls that valve? The electronic component is a position sensor, so what should be stopping that from flapping? I can't see anything wrong with the valve itself. The spring seems fine, etc.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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The spring may look OK but over time it may of lost its tension. This happens on the newer vehicles some. Newer 93-up.
 
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The valve is controlled by vacuum, and there is a solenoid that turns the vacuum on and off. The solenoid is turned on and off by the engine computer.

There where several variations of this control system, but I believe that is the one you have. You may want to pull some codes, and see if you have an egr sensor errors. If the feedback sensor is bad, it can confuse the computer.
 
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No codes related to EGR came up, but I did get a 42. Bad O2 sensor. I will obviously replace it. Could a bad O2 sensor cause the EGR system to act whacky?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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Hard to say, but fix the obvious things first. Also check the vacuum lines going to the egr system.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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So swapped out O2 sensor. I don't get any codes for the KeyOn test.

The valve makes a chattering sound around 2k rpm. The vacuum line from the valve to the solenoid seems to be a perfect shape. Is there a way to better diagnose this? The valve & solenoid are pretty expensive, so I'd rather not just start swapping in new parts. Has anyone else experienced this?

It doesn't seem to effect the engine much, but it sounds pretty weird going down the road with the engine chattering away!
 
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Unplug the solenoid. If the chattering goes away, then at least you know the computer is causing the chattering, since it controls the solenoid.

If the computer is causing it, it may be getting bad info from the position sensor on the egr valve. If have never messed with one, but if you could unplug the sensor, and then put a ohmmeter on it, and slowly move the sensor or the egr valve open and closed, you could see if the ohms of the sensor where nice and smooth, or all chopped up and jerky.
 
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