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From: Detroit
Originally Posted by Bobby82490
Wow, i figured that those chebby trucks with the 454 would be "fast", i guess not....Has anybody took their stock 5.4 to the 1/4 mile? What did it run?
The 97-03 pickups had 235-255 horsepower (flywheel) with the 5.4 and weighted right around 5000 lbs; the '04 up had 300 hp and weight jumped to 5500-6000 lbs. Almost the same power to weight ratio as the old Chevy 454SS...or 20 lbs for each horsepower, which is the mark of a slow vehicle. A stock Honda Civic or Ford Focus has 130-150 horsepower, weight around 2800 lbs, right around the same as the big trucks.
If you want to go fast, get an old 3000 lb Mustang with 300 horsepower, gives you a power to weight ratio of 10 lbs per horsepower, and now you're talking. The truck would need 500-600 horsepower to run like the Mustang in a straight line, and the only way to get that is a turbo or supercharger. But if you put the supercharger on the Mustang....
A buddy of mine who builds kit Cobra replicas just had his new toy at the Autorama--it's a Factory 5 Cobra replica with a supercharged 4.6 in it. Probably about 2300 lbs, and maybe 400+ horsepower at the rear wheels. That sucker is gonna run.
A truck is NOT a performance vehicle, unless your definition of performance is a rumbly exhaust and sitting really high up while burning a lot of gas.
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From: royal oak, mich
I'm agreeing with George in my own way to. I'm on a secluded area road where there's no problem if things get out of control. I want to know what the limits are and what to expect. When the roadis wet I don't even use low gear. Next if wheel/tire replacement to hold it down.
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From: royal oak, mich
Originally Posted by 1984 F-150
yeah i guess everyone is right. it is a 4x4. i guess im never happy
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From: N. Fort Myers,FL
Originally Posted by YoGeorge
The 97-03 pickups had 235-255 horsepower (flywheel) with the 5.4 and weighted right around 5000 lbs; the '04 up had 300 hp and weight jumped to 5500-6000 lbs. Almost the same power to weight ratio as the old Chevy 454SS...or 20 lbs for each horsepower, which is the mark of a slow vehicle. A stock Honda Civic or Ford Focus has 130-150 horsepower, weight around 2800 lbs, right around the same as the big trucks.
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From: Iowa
i used my edge to 1/4 mile my truck, and with it untuned (still running the 4.6l computer in it) my best time was a 16.5. Thats with 32" mud tires to, also my best reaction time was about .6 seconds... i know im kinda slow...
I think 16s would be very easy for a good tuned motor.... and if you are lucky to have the 5.4l reg cab shortbed 4x4 i bet it would go much quicker
I think 16s would be very easy for a good tuned motor.... and if you are lucky to have the 5.4l reg cab shortbed 4x4 i bet it would go much quicker
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From: N. Fort Myers,FL
Well i tried my 0-60 this morning.. my best was just under 10sec. The 10sec one was after my fan clutch disengaged, i ran over a 11sec with the fan clutch locked up. I need to find a different fan clutch, i bought a new one because my old one went bad....now the new one doesnt work right(its always "locked" up)
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From: royal oak, mich
Originally Posted by Bobby82490
Well i tried my 0-60 this morning.. my best was just under 10sec. The 10sec one was after my fan clutch disengaged, i ran over a 11sec with the fan clutch locked up. I need to find a different fan clutch, i bought a new one because my old one went bad....now the new one doesnt work right(its always "locked" up)
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From: N. Fort Myers,FL
I want to but i dont have hardly any money, and i just figured out im getting layed off in a couple of months....so i gotta start saving my pennys..
I will probably just go to the local junk yard and get one.. i need a IAC so ill get both while im there.
I will probably just go to the local junk yard and get one.. i need a IAC so ill get both while im there.
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From: Republic of TEXAS
Originally Posted by steve(ill)
well, i guess teh only one i agree with is George. why would anyone take a 5000 poound truck and try to do burnouts and roast the tires? whats the point? if you wanted a race car, you should have bought a mustang.
hey, it's only numbers..... my little 4.6 does everything I've asked it to do, and keeps smiling at me.
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From: Broken Arrow, OK
Originally Posted by YoGeorge
A truck is NOT a performance vehicle, unless your definition of performance is a rumbly exhaust and sitting really high up while burning a lot of gas.
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From: Detroit
Originally Posted by Silver Streak
Tell that to all the Porsche, Vette, Camaro and Mustang drivers that can't keep up with a Lightning on the drag strip or the road course.
With enough work, you can make anything fast, but most of the yoyos around here with loud trucks are driving loud, slow, overweight "look at me" pigs.
....and I am not up on the Lightning performance specs, but would seriously doubt that it would beat very much real performance stuff on a road course, especially a tight one. A 4700 lb truck autocrossing? hee hee... (Likewise, my Hemi Roadrunner, manual steering, manual drum brakes, was a joke turning corners.) And take the Lightning engine, put it in a Mustang or Cobra kit car, and then compare....as Colin Chapman said, one of the best routes to performance is "adding lightness" to a vehicle.
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From: N. Fort Myers,FL
Originally Posted by YoGeorge
A Lightning ceases to be a truck; it is a hot rod with a truck body, just as a Hemi Roadrunner was no longer a Belevdere taxicab. (I had one of the former). How much weight can you carry in the bed? Pull a big trailer? Just checked the specs and the Lightning is 4670 lbs...with almost 60% of the weight on the front wheels (almost a whole Mustang's worth).
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Its also pretty easy to get more power out of them, with pulley and tune changes.
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From: Fort Wayne
"I want to but i dont have hardly any money"
I went to the junkyard and bought a twin e-fan setup out of a Windstar van for $50. It fits almost like it was designed for these trucks. Fed power out of the distribution block under the hood, used 2 relays, one tied into a/c clutch for low speed fan and one tied into a $18 thermostatic fan controller from Autozone to bring in the high volume fan if it gets hot. Works like a champ and I don't think I have $75 in the whole setup.
I went to the junkyard and bought a twin e-fan setup out of a Windstar van for $50. It fits almost like it was designed for these trucks. Fed power out of the distribution block under the hood, used 2 relays, one tied into a/c clutch for low speed fan and one tied into a $18 thermostatic fan controller from Autozone to bring in the high volume fan if it gets hot. Works like a champ and I don't think I have $75 in the whole setup.