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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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im thinking injector or injectors (white smoke)dont over look them!
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rebelchevy02
Usually a white smoke, but the truck im talking about doesnt really smoke either, but if its cold out, and you start it, it wont idle, but once its warm, its just as normal, i think because one or more cylinders isnt getting heat from the glow plug, its not heating up enough tomake all the fuel work. It actually runs rough/slow also when its cold, but once the whole engine heats up its ok. which is more the reason why i think thats the issue. I could be wrong, its just what i think, it already has the stancor gpr, but it sits around alot in the last few months, and this problem has developed while its sitting. It just really makes me think thats the problem is all. But the stancor gpr is less then 60, and if youve never done a gpr on your truck, its not a bad idea to do so.
Hmmm....I'll take your idea under consideration. Thanks.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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Hmmm....I'll take your idea under consideration. Thanks.
Understandable, I just havent had time to look at the truck, thats why its not fixed, and i cant tell you 100% thats the problem, as it sounds your truck and this one have the same problem, but its were ill start, its also in the 170k ish range, so its very similar to yours, just hope it helps.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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Reps to Dan, Great offer. If your service engine light come on, there should be codes. Remember, not all code readers will read PSD codes. Could be a bad ICP or IPR sensor. Mine acted something like that when my IPR went bad. Also, you might want to rig a fuel gauge up and check you pressure.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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I'd definitely recommend reading the codes. But..I can say that I had 4 injectors replsced and started having a rough idle and very poor performance (until warm) immediately after the injectors were put in. Took me a few weeks to convince the shop to just replace the injectors....they did...and that problem went away. In the end, I'm not sure if it was an injector(s) or an o-ring on an injector. Never smoked at all....just poor idle and poor performance until warm...you could literally feel it 'kick-in' and run fairly normal once it was warm. Hope this helps. Codes would also start leading you in the right direction.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by medhvac
im thinking injector or injectors (white smoke)dont over look them!
No smoke, that's the problem. Smoke is usually (and again, correct me if I'm wrong) typical of either bad GP's or injectors.

The "ROMP, ROMP, ROMP" (symptom #1) when cold starting is indicative of fuel starvation. There have been many threads about the cold starting "ROMP, ROMP, ROMP", but it is easily solved by allowing the fuel pump to fully fill the filter housing during the WTS period prior to ignition. This is why I believe it may be a fuel delivery issue. I get "ROMP, ROMP, ROMP" no matter HOW many times I cycle the key.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RocketScience
No smoke, that's the problem. Smoke is usually (and again, correct me if I'm wrong) typical of either bad GP's or injectors.

The "ROMP, ROMP, ROMP" (symptom #1) when cold starting is indicative of fuel starvation. There have been many threads about the cold starting "ROMP, ROMP, ROMP", but it is easily solved by allowing the fuel pump to fully fill the filter housing during the WTS period prior to ignition. This is why I believe it may be a fuel delivery issue. I get "ROMP, ROMP, ROMP" no matter HOW many times I cycle the key.
I think the romp romps are typical of an oil problem,(oil going to the injector) if you put 10w40 synthetic in your truck it would more then likely stop the romp romps. Ive done alot since my truck romped last, and i had the violently real romps, (rev from stall to 1200 immediately and fast) But i never experienced it this winter with the synthetic, but like i said, i also did other things aswell.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by zx250
Reps to Dan, Great offer. If your service engine light come on, there should be codes. Remember, not all code readers will read PSD codes....
Really??? GREAT.....now you tell me.

I've got the Actron CP9125 PocketScan. Doesn't say anything about not reading certain types of vehicles?

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Could be a bad ICP or IPR sensor. Mine acted something like that when my IPR went bad. Also, you might want to rig a fuel gauge up and check you pressure.
ICP, IPR??? School me 'ol acronym Guru.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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Put synthetic in it and the romps will go away. Believe me I know. You need to check your fuel pressure with a gauge, at idle and under load. Once that is removed from the equation we can dig into it. Since you are not getting smoke, it is probably not getting fuel. When mine romped it smoked.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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I'm with Mike...my truck romped daily on colder mornings....but hasn't romped once since I switched to Rotella 5w-30 Synthetic.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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Here is what the ICP and IPR look like and what their names are.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RocketScience
No smoke, that's the problem. Smoke is usually (and again, correct me if I'm wrong) typical of either bad GP's or injectors.

The "ROMP, ROMP, ROMP" (symptom #1) when cold starting is indicative of fuel starvation. There have been many threads about the cold starting "ROMP, ROMP, ROMP", but it is easily solved by allowing the fuel pump to fully fill the filter housing during the WTS period prior to ignition. This is why I believe it may be a fuel delivery issue. I get "ROMP, ROMP, ROMP" no matter HOW many times I cycle the key.
Cycling the key had no affect on my cold start. I had a gauge on it and it would show 57psi (before I shimmed it) and it still romped. After Nlemerise started his truck without the GPs in the 20s, I did the same. They both started without GPs but smoked pretty good. At least mine did. Big clouds of white smoke.

It would not surprise me if your scanner was not reading codes.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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There's a guide to the HPOP at the bottom of this page http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/articl...icle-06-08.php you can download for free. It kind of explains how all the parts work. Hope this helps.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Tenn01PSD350
....You need to check your fuel pressure with a gauge, at idle and under load. Once that is removed from the equation we can dig into it...
Hypothetically, let's say for a moment the fuel pressure is up to par. Please "dig into it."
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tenn01PSD350
...It would not surprise me if your scanner was not reading codes.
You mean; There are no codes there? -or- My scanner is not able to read the codes for my truck?
 
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