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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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Hey, my mom always taught me there is no such thing as a stupid question...just stupid people.

On that note, I don't know! I'm just told that the converter has a drainplug on these! I didn't think far enough ahead to figure out prefilling...I was just going to do it the old fashioned way...put fluid in until full, then start putting it in each gear to fill the journals...making sure the fluid level never drops too low...kind of like bleeding brakes I guess. Now you got me thinking though!
You got it. There should be a drain plug that you can get at from the access hole on the bellhousing. When I change tranny fluid I fill it until full and then go through the gears until it looks good and then drive it around the block and keep checking it.

The fuel filter is on the drivers side frame rail. You should be able to see it from underneath the truck. IIRC it was somewhat of a pita.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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True...and not run it dry at the same time. Not a bad plan. While I'm there, should throw an external cooler on it!
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:00 PM
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You got it. There should be a drain plug that you can get at from the access hole on the bellhousing. When I change tranny fluid I fill it until full and then go through the gears until it looks good and then drive it around the block and keep checking it.

The fuel filter is on the drivers side frame rail. You should be able to see it from underneath the truck. IIRC it was somewhat of a pita.
HAHA...atleast it ain't in the tank!

Hey question...how much are fuel pumps going for on these rigs? Hope it ain't $800 like our Yukon was!
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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You got it. There should be a drain plug that you can get at from the access hole on the bellhousing. When I change tranny fluid I fill it until full and then go through the gears until it looks good and then drive it around the block and keep checking it.

The fuel filter is on the drivers side frame rail. You should be able to see it from underneath the truck. IIRC it was somewhat of a pita.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 07:56 AM
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There is a rubber plug on the bottom of the bell housing. Pull the rubber plug then turn the crank shaft either with a socket and breaker bar or I use a starter button to turn the engine over. What you are looking for is a square drain plug to line up with the hole in the bottom of the bell housing. Drain the fluid, it takes a while to drain through that drain plug. Put the drain plug back in then start filling the trans back up. I put in around 8-10 quarts then start it up and start checking it after running it through the gears. It takes I beleive around 15-17 quarts for a complete change. I wish all vehicals had a converter drain which I feel is alot better than flushing a trans,but if you keep up with the fluid changes it shouldn't become an issue.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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True...and not run it dry at the same time. Not a bad plan. While I'm there, should throw an external cooler on it!
That wouldn't be a bad idea at all. While you're at it, add an external cartridge style filter rather than the screen type that is in there already.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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That wouldn't be a bad idea at all. While you're at it, add an external cartridge style filter rather than the screen type that is in there already.
HAHA, hello Amsoil?
 
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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There is a rubber plug on the bottom of the bell housing. Pull the rubber plug then turn the crank shaft either with a socket and breaker bar or I use a starter button to turn the engine over. What you are looking for is a square drain plug to line up with the hole in the bottom of the bell housing. Drain the fluid, it takes a while to drain through that drain plug. Put the drain plug back in then start filling the trans back up. I put in around 8-10 quarts then start it up and start checking it after running it through the gears. It takes I beleive around 15-17 quarts for a complete change. I wish all vehicals had a converter drain which I feel is alot better than flushing a trans,but if you keep up with the fluid changes it shouldn't become an issue.
OK, so rubber plug out first...turn things until the moon aligns with the stars, and presto! Sounds like a fairly easy task really...especially since there is enough clearance under the truck to not have to lift it off the ground!
 
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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That wouldn't be a bad idea at all. While you're at it, add an external cartridge style filter rather than the screen type that is in there already.
Question...how do I get a hold of a scanner that can read differences between input and output speed sensors? Would be pretty cool to see if something is slipping internally!
 
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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Could your problem be poor pressure in the valve body in your tranny? A clog or something?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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There is a write up on changing fluid in the 4R100 written by a Ford tranny engineer in the article section.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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Thanks Monsta! Pretty good writeup! And since I have an 03, I guess i don't have a drain plug in my converter.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 11:27 PM
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Could your problem be poor pressure in the valve body in your tranny? A clog or something?
no idea! wish I knew...how do I test that?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by heymrdj
Could your problem be poor pressure in the valve body in your tranny? A clog or something?
OK, poor pressure I know can be dealt with using a shift kit of some sort...but how about the possibility of a clog? Remove the VB and clean it??? I'm kinda clueless on this one.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 12:21 AM
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Hey, I've got a couple of thoughts for ya about teh scanner and stuff. I will get it posted up in the AM as I really gotta hit the hay.
 
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