just one thing ? i think i like to get it down to stock height my knees aren't what they used to be other than that i'd like a 5 or 6 sp trannyand efi and and a dana 60 up front and a working ac lol i could go on and on

 

Okay, I'm done I tested it today.


Hey sucka..get off the road !


I used a GMC in case someone shot back

 

Why not? I've seen 678 hp from a NA stroker Windsor. It had a bit of a nasty idle to it, but he played on the rocks with the group I was with for some of the day. Also found out that 44's on a Dana 44 is a really bad idea .
It was licensed and streetable, although I wouldn't want to every day.

Jason

 

Well Ford themselves built a 429 with 375 hp and 450 lb/ft of torque!

But for example check out Barnett High Performance http://www.barnetthighperformance.com/home.htm

They'll sell a street 429ci good for 440 hp and 485 lb/ft of torque all the way up to a bored out 557ci good for 830hp and 695 lb/ft of torque!

But I just think 600 is a really nice sounding number, but it would be pushing the limits for what I'd like to have on the street, or how much $ I'd be wanting to put into the truck and the gas tank.

But definitely one thing I would change!

 

Well... Id love to have been able to blow the truck apart and do a total frame off...

Theres a whole list of stuff I'd like to redo..I'll get to them one by one...slowly but surely

Wishful Mods...EFI for my FE (i know its possible but $$$$)

 

If you get 600 streetable hp from a 429 Im going to scrap my 545 build copy yours instead.

the 375 hp is a Boss 429 which shares very little with a production thunderjet or even CJ 429.

440hp is a mightly long way from 600 and 557 is a might big bore and stroke difference over a 429.

You arent comparing apples to apples.

a 600hp stroker 545-557 would idle all day long pull enough vacuum for power brakes and get a reasonable 8-9mpg where as a full out race 429 to make the same power would be in the 3-4mpg on race gas and couldnt pull vacuum if it was tied to the bumper.

 

I can't believe no one has commented on my Gun Truck yet

That's actually a link to it in Post#32

 

Well, since the 521-560 ci strokers are based off of the 429/460 platform, you're really argueing over nothing. Yes, 100-150 more cubic inches are going to make a big difference in power output on similarly built engines. Thats no big secret. But 400-450 horses is easily obtainable from a iron headed 429. I don't think that 600 is that far off for a street engine. I built one with 9.5:1 compression and hack job ported heads that was dyno'd at 430. A good set of aluminum heads, a bump in comp, and a good cam should find 600 hp. Not as easily as a big cube stroker would, but its still doable.

Jason

 

Dennis that is awesome seriously awesome. I would love to have that lol

 

Build it test it and post the numbers. Then install it in a street driven vehicle with power brakes and tell me how it runs on pump gas and if it gets reasonable gas mileage (8-9mpg)

When I do the bolt ons (ported and polished TFSs TFS Black roller rockers custom ground lunati voodoo cam reccurved distributor and 2500 stall) ScottyJ at reincarnation-automotive said Id be lucky to get 500hp from my 460 10.2:1 comp. He said any bigger cam and Id hate it on the street and not enough vacuum for power brakes. I trust his opinion and thoughts on horsepower level. The bad thing is anyone who changes a cam think they magically have 500 hp this just isnt true. Thats better than 1 horsepower per cubic inch and thats reputable from any engine. Desktop dyno is not an accurate. Unless you dyno'd your engine on an engine dyno I dont believe 430hp for half a second. If you want me to believe you have 430hp at the back tires I call BS.

Do some reading on 460ford.com in the engine build section. If a 600hp 429 is possible those guys have done it. Im a regular there and Ive never seen one.

Maybe Rob (monsterbaby) can chime in.

Dennis,
that will work. got a write up?

 

Wow!
I was talking about a 429 as the platform to build of off, probably bored and stroked.
Sorry 'bout the confusion.

 

This has been almost 20 years ago, so I couldn't give you a dyno sheet. I built the engine in high school and was able to dyno it at a the machine shop that did my work. Peak horsepower was 433 at 6000 rpm. Torque peaked over 500, and it was fairly down low. I had it in a '67 f100 2wd with manual drum brakes, so I was never concerned with vacuum (if you're worried about vacuum on an engine like this, HYDROBOOST is the way to go). Ran on 92 octane. It was my daily driver until I sold it to a friend of mine who promptly grenaded it. I don't remember what kind of mileage I got from it. I remember being able to go the whole week on a tank back and forth to school and work, and then burning up a whole tank just on Friday and Saturday nights.

I don't see why you think that 430 horses is far fetched when the CJ and SCJ were putting up 375 hp from the factory. And the technology has come a long ways in 35 years.

Jason

 

well actually if you did look at that link they have a 460 for sale rated at 625 horses, and a 475 hp 429, but obviously it's easier horsepower when you up the displacement so how often do people focus and max power with boring or stroking?

 

Supercab or crewcab. 350 instead of 250. D60F instead of D44F. Turbo Diesel engine with a 6 speed manual. Gear vendors O/D. I could dream forever!!!

 

I think youre missing the point. Im not saying you CANT build a 600hp 429 Im saying you CANT build one with street manners.

Its frivolos to argue with people.

Like I said build the engine dyno it and slap it in a truck.


I trust ScottyJ over a highschool shop class build though