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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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switch to carb

How hard is it to switch a late 80s early 90s f-150 from efi to carb? I've been looking for a 80-86 f-150 but I can't find one, atleast not one thats in good shape. So I would like info on switching from efi to carb
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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On the pre '90 trucks it's relatively easy, strip the motor and bolt on a carb and intake, and then delete the frame mounted high presure fuel pump and just use the low pressure in-tank pumps to feed the carb. You'll also want to make sure you get either a manual, C6 or AOD tranny.. not one of the computer controlled trannys.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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I'm looking for a a truck with a manual tranny, so that won't be a problem. My only concern is any thing that goes through the computer. So what you are saying is that I can just take out the computer and not have any problems. What I'm wondering is, is there any sensors that are needed with a carb setup that run through the computer?
 
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Brett1989
So what you are saying is that I can just take out the computer and not have any problems. ?
Yep.. though you'll probably want to remove all the wiring and vacuum lines as well.

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What I'm wondering is, is there any sensors that are needed with a carb setup that run through the computer?
Carbs don't need sensors. You will however need an ignition and distributor from a carb'd motor.

BTW, If you do find a running EFI truck you won't gain anything by switching it to carb. And if this vehicle has to have emissions tests it won't pass with the carb on it.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 10:08 PM
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No emissions tests here in Minnesota. I want a carb so its easier to work on and I like carbs better, plus there is a wider range of parts available and they are cheap.
For sensors, I'm talking about the sensors for the check engine light, oil light, etc.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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No emissions tests here in Minnesota..
Not yet.

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I want a carb so its easier to work on and I like carbs better, plus there is a wider range of parts available and they are cheap..
If you add up all the parts and labor needed to convert one of these trucks to carb you probably wouldn't say that.


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For sensors, I'm talking about the sensors for the check engine light, oil light, etc.
You'll have to rewire the dash lights to function without the computer.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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let me butt in here with some advice, from reading your other posts your wanting to run 2-2bbl carbs on your 302 and your looking for economy.....for all the research and thinking your doing you could get all schooled up on FI, find a 90's truck with a 351w which will probably get you better mileage than a carbed 302 and more get up and go
 
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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Easier to work on with a carb?

My computers tell what's wrong. Even when my wife can't put the gas cap on right. Can't get any better than this.
Your efforts to go with a carb would be better spent understanding the FI system. It's really not that hard, and a good scanner helps.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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I have looked at efi, but from what I've seen, parts for the efi system are more expensive, and for what I want to do to the engine, a stock efi system won't be able to keep up, I'll look some more but I don't think I'm going to find much. Besides I just like carbs better, I'm old school, but born into new school stuff.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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I have looked at efi, but from what I've seen, parts for the efi system are more expensive, and for what I want to do to the engine, a stock efi system won't be able to keep up, I'll look some more but I don't think I'm going to find much. Besides I just like carbs better, I'm old school, but born into new school stuff.
you sure about that???...I'm willing to bet 1989 is the year you're born....they didn't even use carbs on most trucks after 1987????
I won't even go into the advantages of FI, it's been said over and over again not only on this, but most other forums. Many people are even converting their '60, '70's muscle-cars to FI. As for a stock EFI set-up not keeping up...who says you need to use one off a 302??
 
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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Yea I was born in 89, whats yer point about most trucks having efi after 87? I know that, I don't care about the so called advantages of efi. I just looked up prices for a bew throttle body and an intake, and it was around $800 combined, I can buy an intake, carb, and headers for that price.
 
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Originally Posted by Brett1989
I just looked up prices for a bew throttle body and an intake, and it was around $800 combined, I can buy an intake, carb, and headers for that price.
Lets look at this another way then. What exactly are your plans for this truck and motor? The stock EFI system is a lot more adaptable than most non-efi types think, meaning it will self correct the A/F ratio for things you bolt-on to increase power. A carb won't do that, period.

You can safely bolt on headers, upgrade the cam and port the stock heads, no changes to the EFI electronics or intake manifold necessary, and you will see lots more power. How far can you go? About 300hp is the answer, after that is when EFI starts to require upgraded parts on these trucks.
 
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