I went to lowes, got two SS switchplates (light switch covers) bolted them together spaced about 1/8 apart, attached with nylon 8/32 screws and nuts, attached a 6amp battery charger to the two plates, dipped it into the kitchen sink filled with cold water, and it does produce bubbles that are indeed flammable.

I guess I need to build a cell (or six) and see what it does.

 

i am bringing this back from the dead, i am interested in this hho cell, even 5 miles to the gallon would be worth it, i know gas price is cheaper right now, but it could and will go up again, and these trucks don't get great mileage, but i know go drive a sub compact, but i don't feel like spending 100 bucks to fill up or even 70, i would rater put that money towards a nice upgrade for the truck like reupholster the bench seat with leather! or a air condition unit from vintage air!, and yes even a canuck up here needs the good ole ac! lol and i wonder what i could do for keeping the water from freezing? alcohol or antifreeze? or electric heater? but that would drain the battery, or i could have a plug in type? any ideas on the this would be great and if ya got pictures of a dentside with a cell in it please post and share how you did it, and i think you have to lean out the carb? and the hho gas from the cell goes into the intake?

 

AC?! In Canada!? I thought you guys would just chip a few splinters of ice off the old Igloo. Keep them in a bucket on the seat next to you.

 

Not sure how this works out on Carbed engines. I had one on a Metro that I got about 45-49 mpg befor a friend built the box. We were talking about it and he said he thought I could double my milage, I told him he was nuts. Well the mileage didn't double but it jump up to between 67-70 range. I was convinced it works but again not sure how to do it on a carbed engine. If you are going to drop milage you would need to account for the additional fuel in form of the hydrogen and lean out the carb. this would improve the milage but if the Hydro-maker falls off you could burn a piston with the lean mix. On the newer fuel injection vehicle just move the O2 sensor alittle further out and the computor takes care of the mixture.

 

By the way it did use some water but not as much as you would think. I would put mabey 4 onces in every couple weeks. Seems like when the water turns to gas it takes very little volume. I was driving it about 50 miles a day thrue the week and maybe 150 or so over the weekend. Hope this helps

 

thanks guys, but it bugs me that a thread like how to lower a truck gets more attention then a thread trying to improve gas mileage, i understand some people want to lower there trucks, but gas mileage is everyone's issiue on here, sure gas is down now, but why not improve gas mileage and save some money, heck i don't care if its better for the environment! globull warming does not exist, well at least man made, and i know its better for my pocket book, and you can always put gauges telling you if the hho cell is making gas, and if its not then you have to add water or check the wires for power, it seems simple and easy to build, i wish someone would put one on a old truck like ours, even 5 miles to the gallon is better than nothing, even if i could get 25 miles to the gallon out of my 302 that would be great, i know go buy a compact car, but i would rather drive my truck and pay less for gas, like i said i would rather spend my money else where, and i am sick of the mid east running our fuel supply, even if the hho replaced only 6% of the gas going into my engine that is a step in the right direction! even dual batteries would be worth it!

 

my dad and his coworkers have been makin their own at work . they tested a few prototypes......1 blew up lol. but they have had sucess.

When they get one that is reliable he wants to try it on MY truck.........

sounds promising tho.

 

OK now hold up just a second. I have run one on a car, and reported that it did improve milage. I also stated that I am not sure how you would compensate for the added gas with a carb. Whats wrong with your truck? You say you don't like it that not as many folks are interested in this as they are in lowered trucks. Well change their minds. Build one yourself, put it on your truck, make changes and report on the results. Like it said in the movie "If you build it, they will come" I know that was a funky dude up in Iowa but if you build one of these and make it work. Come on here and post in the headline that you have acheived 20MPG with a 460 or 27MPG with a 302 they will read it. I don't mean to come off as being rude I do understand you wanting folks to be as interested in this as you are. But why wait on some one else to do it? Be trail blazer, get out there in front and show everyone how its done man! Lead by example.

 

i am planning on doing a hho fuel cell, as soon as i am doing every thing else! like brakes and shifters and interior work like carpeting and getting the bench seat upholstered and then installing my pioneer deck and dual subs behind the bench seat and the 6" speakers in the doors and then hooking it all up and the amp, then of course before all that i have to finish the body work and paint the truck and other details, and i don't have the time to do this little project right now, and if i did i could not test it as the truck is in frame off resto, and i get what you saying, and i plan on being the trail blazer, and i will post my findings once i have the protype installed, i just wanted some ideas on how to do it, i understand the idea and think it would be cheap and easy to build i just have to figure out how to get power to it? it only has to run when the truck is on, i could hook up a switch to turn on the electrodes? or have it come on when the truck is on? i am not sure yet, and would love to see a version in someones truck, and i think its very important to have better mileage, since the oil comes from the evil iran and the mid east jerks, and the price is crazy even right now, plus i think if we could get better mileage more of these old trucks would get driven, and i know theres a lot of guys out there that have a truck in there laneway that they can't drive due to gas prices, and i think this hho fuel cell should be tested by some respectable company or organization, and let me make it clear that even high gas prices would never park my truck when its done! i would just like to make it easier on my wallet, and i can't stand the Al Gore followers! the earth is melting the earth is melting! i wish they would move to the arctic or at least northern U.S.A. or Canada, its freezing right now in London, ON ah well if anyone has any info on hho cells or has done it, or is going to do it please post your thoughts or ideas or pictures of you rig if ya have it. thanks a bunch guys.

 

Me and my brother have made like 4 different designs of these. We have'nt got to install our latest version that should be very efficient. My 79' is in pieces or I would try it on a carbed motor. I've heard that EFI motors are already so efficient that they dont gain as much as carbed motors could. I've also heard that a general tune up could give you a mileage increase, and that warming fuel lines and cooling intake air can give mileage/power increases. I'm going to try a little bit of everything....eventually. I even want to put the fuel through a nebulizer before it goes into the intake, just gotta figure out how to do it without looking like "Back to the future". We've run them on a worn out 91 4 cly 5 speed Ranger (29 mpg, power increase), 95 4cyl 5 speed saturn (41 mpg, power increase)I've learned alot.
1. These would be impossible to mass produce and sell due to liability. You cant make them idiot proof.
2. Using a 1/2 a tablespoon of baking soda as a catalyst in the water makes it work 100 fold.
3. 3-6 amps is plenty for cruising around town, 9 amps is plenty for 80 mph on interstate. The higher amps you run the faster your water turns brown and clumpy. Make 2, wire them in as a series, that gives each 6 amps, make 3..gives you 4amps each....
4. make everything out of stainless or it will roast fast.
5. this thing will get hot, you gotta figure something out for that.
If I think of anything else I'll let you know.

 

thanks for the info, and i can't wait for a update from you, and if you could please post pictures of what your cell looks like, and how you built it, and i am trying to figure out what container i should use? and how do you get the gas out? a simple sealed lid with a hose glued to the top to suck the gas that floats to the top? and then run it into the carb? and i have a aluminum intake but i still have stock cast iron heads? will the gas eat the cast iron? i have heard that gasoline has hydrogen in it? i don't want to do damage to he engine, i can't see a little hydrogen hurting the motor, unless you tryed to run it on straight hydrogen! any info on damage issiues would be great to know about, and it is simple install in these old trucks, there is no computer or map censors or air sensors to deal with, and i think even 5 miles better would be worth it!, and i thanks mando jake for info and future updates. and i can't wait to see a picture of your fuel cell!

 

OK Guys I must confess I do not own a ford but stumbled onto this thread.
I've built one of these gizmos that produces 1.5 L of HHO / min.
I know that doesn't sound like a lot when you consider my GMC Duramax guzzles 6.6L every other revolution... BUT I think it is enough...
The + side of all of this is the increase in efficiency of the use of the fuel you are using NOT JUST THE HHO gas you generate.
Before I elaborate further, for those of you intending to build one of these go to youtube.com and search for ZeroFossilFuel ... This guy is like a teacher and has produced 137 videos on how to do all this.
GREAT INFO.
Mine is patterned after one of his. 25 SSteel plates, each plate 2"X7".
As far as how much water it uses---- One Gram molecular weight (GMW) of water is 18 grams. Since one gram of water is the measure for 1 mL that is 18 mL of water. ANY GAS occupies 22.4 L/ GMW-- It follows that you get
1 GMW of H (H2) and 1/2 GMW of O (O) (it needs another to make an O2 molecule). The H2 = 22.4L of hydrogen and 11.2L of oxygen from 18 mL of water.
If you have an oxygen sensor you have to fool it with a circuit OR YOUR MILEAGE WILL ACTUALLY go DOWN because the computer thinks the mixture is too lean when you add the hydrogen/oxygen mix so it just adds more of your fuel to enrich it.
There are other problems like current drawn and controlling that + more current, more heat etc... Watch the videos by zerofossilfuel. he will give you more info than I ever could... Just hope this helps some of you as much as it helped me... It is important to note how he seals up the ends and edges of the cells... VERY IMPORTANT.
Don

 

nothing to add - just subscribing to the thread.

 

wow hope this works out would love to dich my fluks capasitor ,tuff finding 1.1 jigawatts on a sunny day . just kiding i would convert to a steam engine if i could get more than 12 mpg