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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 08:57 AM
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My new Hellwig is Installed!

The Hellwig Rear Stabilizer is installed! I am impressed with the handling characteristics from before without out the bar....and that was without pulling anything yet! Next week, we will be pulling the new 33' Rockwood TT and I can't wait for that 'maiden voyage'!
 
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:05 AM
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Great let us know how it goes.... I am waiting on the delivery of my Helwig. I tow a 34 ft toy hauler and cant wait to see the difference it makes
 
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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Stugpanzer, we need a report on how she tows. Did u do the install?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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I had a friend install it....and when I tow with it, I will report back.....
 
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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If you guys didn't see much change unloaded, I'm not sure it'll do that much when towing.

When we put ours on our `05, even my wife (who is not inclined to notice stuff like this) immediately noticed an improvement in the steering wander. I didn't do the steering box until after, just so that I could separate the effects.

Towing before the Helwig and box adjustement was NOT fun. We were all over the road.

We tow a 29' 7klb camper and have somewhere around a 1klb tongue, but I'm just guesssing based on the dry weight. We use a Reese Dual Cam hitch.

Switching to Michelin LTX M/S tires (and getting an aligment) ruined our handling - put us back at square one before the box and Helwig, and I haven't gotten it sorted out yet.

Doug
 
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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Switching to Michelin LTX M/S tires (and getting an aligment) ruined our handling - put us back at square one before the box and Helwig, and I haven't gotten it sorted out yet.
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Do you know what they did during the alinement, "Actual Numbers"? And what type of shop did the alinement?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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Got it done by NTB. Never had a problem with my trucks in the past with them, but ...

I'll see if I can dig the numbers out.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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Switching to Michelin LTX M/S tires (and getting an aligment) ruined our handling
And I thought those Michelins were top shelf tires.
 
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Did u do the front sway bar also ?
 
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 06:52 AM
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Glad to hear you like the hellwig. I am very happy with mine and would not go back to going without one. Hard to believe Ford would make the truck without one.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dbtx
Got it done by NTB. Never had a problem with my trucks in the past with them, but ...

I'll see if I can dig the numbers out.
Sorry to hear of the steering problem but I doubt if it has to do with the tires. If the truck handled better before the alinement I would look at that. Try and find a true alinement shop, preferably one that work on larger trucks and has spicificaly worked on Excursions. Most experienced shops will comment on the factory caster specs being wrong fot our trucks.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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Are there any instances where Ford installed stock sways both front and rear. I got under my Ex today and was really looking around and notices that I had a 1.5" sway in the back and, what looks like, a 2" sway in the front. I might have just gotten lucky and the previous owner might have already beat me to the punch. I haven't noticed much wander either. By the way, I recommend MBRP's 4" Turbo back to anyone that doesn't have it already. The tip looks great and since I live somewhere where they don't salt roads (Fresno, CA) ever I got the aluminized. Can't beat $360 shipped and only another $150 to install. $510 out the door and Banks wanted $900+ just for their 4" exhaust. Someone needs to tell these guys that a mandrel bend is a mandrel bend is a mandrel bend no matter whose name is on it!!!!!
 
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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Are there any instances where Ford installed stock sways both front and rear. I got under my Ex today and was really looking around and notices that I had a 1.5" sway in the back and, what looks like, a 2" sway in the front. I might have just gotten lucky and the previous owner might have already beat me to the punch. I haven't noticed much wander either. By the way, I recommend MBRP's 4" Turbo back to anyone that doesn't have it already. The tip looks great and since I live somewhere where they don't salt roads (Fresno, CA) ever I got the aluminized. Can't beat $360 shipped and only another $150 to install. $510 out the door and Banks wanted $900+ just for their 4" exhaust. Someone needs to tell these guys that a mandrel bend is a mandrel bend is a mandrel bend no matter whose name is on it!!!!!
Your measurements are a bit fat even for an aftermarket set of bars. The stock Ford rear bar is 1 in. and mounts with a seperate set of U bolts to the rear axle. The Hellwig mounts with a 3 holed plate on the shock hanger U bolts, a much wider mounting point. The Ford front bar measures 1 3/8 in
 
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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That could be the measurements. I was just approximating. Thanks for the info
 
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by islander1808
Are there any instances where Ford installed stock sways both front and rear. I got under my Ex today and was really looking around and notices that I had a 1.5" sway in the back and, what looks like, a 2" sway in the front. I might have just gotten lucky and the previous owner might have already beat me to the punch. I haven't noticed much wander either. By the way, I recommend MBRP's 4" Turbo back to anyone that doesn't have it already. The tip looks great and since I live somewhere where they don't salt roads (Fresno, CA) ever I got the aluminized. Can't beat $360 shipped and only another $150 to install. $510 out the door and Banks wanted $900+ just for their 4" exhaust. Someone needs to tell these guys that a mandrel bend is a mandrel bend is a mandrel bend no matter whose name is on it!!!!!
My 04 came stock with front and rear sway bars...........and air bags, and 3rd row bucket seats! Rare options but I found em and ordered it that way!!
 
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