Is 5w-20 Really necessary?
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Is 5w-20 Really necessary?
Hello all, new to forums.........new to Ford for that matter. Of all the trucks I have ever owned I have always done most of the maintence on them. I have never put 5w weight oil in any of them. I live down in southern Texas, we have very hot summers and very mild winters. I guess what I am asking is if I run say, 10W-30, will i hurt the engine or void the warranty?
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Originally Posted by JDeere7296
Hello all, new to forums.........new to Ford for that matter. Of all the trucks I have ever owned I have always done most of the maintence on them. I have never put 5w weight oil in any of them. I live down in southern Texas, we have very hot summers and very mild winters. I guess what I am asking is if I run say, 10W-30, will i hurt the engine or void the warranty?
That being said, if you watch the sales, 5w-20 is no more expensive than 10w-30. And VOA and UOA on 5w-20 come back very, very good. Ford's spec for the 5w-20 is very tough, and requires that the oil be semi-syn.
So make Ford happy and put in 5w-20.
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jschira, thanks for the info...........I probably will stick with it just for the fact that if something does happen with the engine, I don't want to be stuck holding the bill. I was just a little curious if others are still using it or if they had switched to a different viscosity.
I've always been told that in hotter climents that a 30w oil will stand up better, is this true?
I've always been told that in hotter climents that a 30w oil will stand up better, is this true?
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Nascar...
NASCAR cars generally race in hotter climates.
I was even surprised to learn that for restrictor plate qualifying, they now use a 0W-5(!) oil, and a 0W-20 for restrictor plate races. For non-restricted racing, they use a 5W-20.
(Do a google search on "joe gibbs racing oil" if you want to see their product page)
Of course, these oils are gonna be synthetics, but if any engine, including a 9500 RPM NASCAR engine, is designed for 5W-20, they run on 5W20. Sure made me feel better about lighter oils...
Tons of discussions down below on oil weights...take some time and read as much as you want. On a mod motor, I think the more important spec is the 5W on the bottom to get oil to the cams quick on startup, but a good 5W-20 like Motorcraft is no problem even for long-haul driving.
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I was even surprised to learn that for restrictor plate qualifying, they now use a 0W-5(!) oil, and a 0W-20 for restrictor plate races. For non-restricted racing, they use a 5W-20.
(Do a google search on "joe gibbs racing oil" if you want to see their product page)
Of course, these oils are gonna be synthetics, but if any engine, including a 9500 RPM NASCAR engine, is designed for 5W-20, they run on 5W20. Sure made me feel better about lighter oils...
Tons of discussions down below on oil weights...take some time and read as much as you want. On a mod motor, I think the more important spec is the 5W on the bottom to get oil to the cams quick on startup, but a good 5W-20 like Motorcraft is no problem even for long-haul driving.
George
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Originally Posted by JDeere7296
jschira, thanks for the info...........I probably will stick with it just for the fact that if something does happen with the engine, I don't want to be stuck holding the bill. I was just a little curious if others are still using it or if they had switched to a different viscosity.
I've always been told that in hotter climents that a 30w oil will stand up better, is this true?
I've always been told that in hotter climents that a 30w oil will stand up better, is this true?
I do not believe that 5w-30 or 10w-30 will hurt your engine, but best to run what Ford recommends while on warranty. After that, run what you feel comfortable with.
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Originally Posted by YoGeorge
NASCAR cars generally race in hotter climates.
I was even surprised to learn that for restrictor plate qualifying, they now use a 0W-5(!) oil, and a 0W-20 for restrictor plate races. For non-restricted racing, they use a 5W-20.
(Do a google search on "joe gibbs racing oil" if you want to see their product page)
Of course, these oils are gonna be synthetics, but if any engine, including a 9500 RPM NASCAR engine, is designed for 5W-20, they run on 5W20. Sure made me feel better about lighter oils...
I was even surprised to learn that for restrictor plate qualifying, they now use a 0W-5(!) oil, and a 0W-20 for restrictor plate races. For non-restricted racing, they use a 5W-20.
(Do a google search on "joe gibbs racing oil" if you want to see their product page)
Of course, these oils are gonna be synthetics, but if any engine, including a 9500 RPM NASCAR engine, is designed for 5W-20, they run on 5W20. Sure made me feel better about lighter oils...
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NASCAR engines only have to run 1 race before being torn down.
If you have a OHV 4.0 which Ford sayes to use 5w30{WHY I don't know}. 5w20 will be fine.
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If you have an engine failer that is determined to be oil related all they have to do is send the oil off for anlyisis. They will see your running the wrong weight oil and will more than likely void the warrenty.
Just run what is recommended, 5w-20. Ford has done tons of testing in all climates and has determined that 5w-20 is up to the task.
Read the topic a few threads down on the V10 modular, that will explain it better.
Just run what is recommended, 5w-20. Ford has done tons of testing in all climates and has determined that 5w-20 is up to the task.
Read the topic a few threads down on the V10 modular, that will explain it better.
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Originally Posted by GrayRanger4x4
Yap,but that 500+ miles on NASCAR is like 5000 or more on the avg. street engine.
He is trying to go between oil changes without rebuilding.
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Originally Posted by jschira
Ford's spec for the 5w-20 is very tough, and requires that the oil be semi-syn.
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Originally Posted by hofuf
I live in Houston and use 5W20. I wouldn't use anything else.
OK...................5W-20 it is!!!!
I didn't realize that there had been so much testing done. I also didn't realize that Nascar engines use 5W-20 either, very surprising!Thanks everyone for the help, I wasn't really certain since this is the first engine I've had that requires that oil......
Someone needs to explain this to my father-in-law, he runs straight 30W in everything, except his Powerstroke............
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Originally Posted by xtrford
My stash of Castrol GTX 5w20 has the 930 spec and I heard pennzoil is the same? I have also heard since the 5w20 is a very shear stable oil that it might contain a small amount of Grp III base stock......could that be true?
5w-20 is mighty good oil, even in dino form.
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Originally Posted by jschira
Yes, but the engine gets rebuilt at that time.
He is trying to go between oil changes without rebuilding.
He is trying to go between oil changes without rebuilding.
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Originally Posted by jschira
NASCAR engines only have to run 1 race before being torn down.
The stresses, heat, RPMs a NASCAR engines sees in one race is more than a commercial or passenger vehicle will see in it's lifetime.
The compression numbers itself (to make power) are trying to tear a race engine apart, at idle. No street engine has those factors.
Completely irrelevant, that is even off the "comparing apples and oranges scale".