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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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Squatting solution?????

I recently picked up a '05 350 supercab lariat FX4 shortbox with a fisher minute mount 2 8' plow a little over a month ago. Without the plow on the front end squats a fair amount and once i hook up it obviously squats a lot more. I plan on putting on a set of Timbrens for when i have to plow. My question is will the Timbrens even help the front end squat w/o the plow on? Or is there something else i can do to level it out? I know there are leveling kits out there but don't know of too many people who are running them. Any plow guys out there with any solutions?????? Thanks!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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Timbrens are basically heavy-duty extended bump stops that engage when you put a load on the front end. A set will help keep the front end up when carrying a plow.

Timbrens will not add significant lift to the front of your truck when your plow is removed. It would be easiest to check what front coil springs you have installed and just swap in a higher capacity set. This would give you the front end lift you need.

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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 06:35 AM
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Thanks Lou, that's what i figured would be the case. I didn't think the Timbrens would help the unloaded squat anyways seeing how they're just beefier bump stops.

I've heard that you can mess around w/ the factory torsion keys rather than buying a leveling kit, is there any truth to that? Would a leveling kit sacrifice the integrity of the front end when i was plowing?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 07:01 AM
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I'm thinking air bags are a good answer. Thats what I did with my F-150 with an 8' plow.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by rhodeisland350
Thanks Lou, that's what i figured would be the case. I didn't think the Timbrens would help the unloaded squat anyways seeing how they're just beefier bump stops.

I've heard that you can mess around w/ the factory torsion keys rather than buying a leveling kit, is there any truth to that? Would a leveling kit sacrifice the integrity of the front end when i was plowing?
There are no torsion bars in the front end, the reason the front ends look squat is so that when you load up the heavy trailers it doesn't look like its saggin a$$. best bet is probably leveling kit out front and airbags in the rear for if you tow much, when towing with the leveling kit it looks like crap since the rear end is down so much
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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Hey Lou, Im a little new here, but my O3 3/4 and my brothers 03 1ton have leaf springs in the front not coils. He does have a 8.5 foot plow and his doesnt squat at all. Did ford change from leafs to coils?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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yes in 05 they went to a coil set up out front
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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One advantage of the coil spring setup is that it is easy to swap in a new set of coil springs. A search here should get you the Ford part numbers for replacement coil springs. Note that you can use F-450 coil springs if you need capacities over 6000#.

My 06's front springs have the CCC code and are 6000# capacity. This handles an 8' Fisher HD plow without any problems.

A spring swap is a simple solution and is realitively easy to do.

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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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So Lou, if you swapped out the coils for a set that goes on a 450 do you even need to bother swapping out the factory bump stops for a set of timbrens? Any idea what a set of 450 coils run?
 
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I am running a 2.5" leveling kit and bought longer shocks to put on the front to maintain that stock feeling ride and then I placed 1 inch blocks in the rear to pick it up just a little, but I do a lot of hauling and that keeps my truck level during loads.
 
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