Need help finding what numbers on block mean.
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Need help finding what numbers on block mean.
what to see if my motor is really a 390 like i was told when i bought it.
numbers found on block
30 352
10 24 90 D
w 1 888
07me-a
88 33 dif
the crank shaft i belive said u2 or t2 has the half moon shape
been told its a 360 cuz of its crank any info that you can tell me would be great or just how to find out what it is
numbers found on block
30 352
10 24 90 D
w 1 888
07me-a
88 33 dif
the crank shaft i belive said u2 or t2 has the half moon shape
been told its a 360 cuz of its crank any info that you can tell me would be great or just how to find out what it is
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It could be, but don't count on it. There were very few 390s installed in pickups. Most were first 352s and later 360s, but somehow they all become 390s on sale because you can tell any difference by looking at them.
The best way to tell for sure is to get a piece of white house wire about 8 in long, and poke it into the front spark plug holes. Lay a Sharpie on the exhaust and against the wire. With the coil wire removed, have a bud rotate the engine a couple revs, and measure the length of the mark left by the Sharpie.
Post the measurement back and we will decipher the engine for you.
John
The best way to tell for sure is to get a piece of white house wire about 8 in long, and poke it into the front spark plug holes. Lay a Sharpie on the exhaust and against the wire. With the coil wire removed, have a bud rotate the engine a couple revs, and measure the length of the mark left by the Sharpie.
Post the measurement back and we will decipher the engine for you.
John
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Originally Posted by The R2
what to see if my motor is really a 390 like i was told when i bought it.
numbers found on block
30 352
10 24 90 D
w 1 888
07me-a
88 33 dif
the crank shaft i belive said u2 or t2 has the half moon shape
been told its a 360 cuz of its crank any info that you can tell me would be great or just how to find out what it is
numbers found on block
30 352
10 24 90 D
w 1 888
07me-a
88 33 dif
the crank shaft i belive said u2 or t2 has the half moon shape
been told its a 360 cuz of its crank any info that you can tell me would be great or just how to find out what it is
2T = 352
2TA = 360
All FE engines of this vintage have 352 cast into the left front corner of the block, because that's what the block started life as...read on > >
07ME is actually C7ME, which is the (1967) raw, unfinished casting number for a 352/360/390/410/428 engine bare block.
When the block is finished, and assembled, it could be any of those engines.
1968/76 F100/350's used two FE engines: 360 or 390. (1965/67 = 352)
The 4th digit in the VIN is the engine code: H = 390 2V / Y = 360 2V
As John said above, on sale day, all 352 or 360 engines magically become 390's.
The engines look identical...measuring the stroke is the easiest way to tell a 360 from a 390.
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
All FE engines of this vintage have 352 cast into the left front corner of the block, because that's what the block started life as...read on > >
07ME is actually C7ME, which is the (1967) raw, unfinished casting number for a 352/360/390/410/428 engine bare block.
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07ME is actually C7ME, which is the (1967) raw, unfinished casting number for a 352/360/390/410/428 engine bare block.
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Originally Posted by rbaker6336
was the earlier 332 stamped 352? been good while since i saw one and don't remember
Did'ja know that besides the 332 and the 352, there was another FE engine used back then...any guesses on what the size was, and what it was used in?
It's not the 390, that engine was introduced for model yr 1961. I'm speaking of the late 1950's.
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I have the motor on engine stand and stripped to the bare block. replaceing almost everything i have been buying 390 parts but i havenet installed any yet. what can i measure while apart to determine every part is off and cleaned except heads. have to drill out manifold bolts!!!!!
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
I doubt it...tho I haven't looked at a 1958/59 FE block in years. I believe that 352 casting number was begun in 1961.
Did'ja know that besides the 332 and the 352, there was another FE engine used back then...any guesses on what the size was, and what it was used in?
It's not the 390, that engine was introduced for model yr 1961. I'm speaking of the late 1950's.
Did'ja know that besides the 332 and the 352, there was another FE engine used back then...any guesses on what the size was, and what it was used in?
It's not the 390, that engine was introduced for model yr 1961. I'm speaking of the late 1950's.
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Originally Posted by The R2
I have the motor on engine stand and stripped to the bare block. replaceing almost everything i have been buying 390 parts but i havenet installed any yet. what can i measure while apart to determine every part is off and cleaned except heads. have to drill out manifold bolts!!!!!
The only things that are different is the crank, pistons and rods (and rings for 352's).
360/390: Same: Gasket set, seals, valves, heads and valve train, cam bearings, rod & main bearings, rings, oil pump, dizzy, carb, waterpump...yadda...yadda...yadda.
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Originally Posted by rbaker6336
could it be the 361 Edsel engine
Used in 1958 only.
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
You're the 1st person on FTE that knew anything about the engine. It's where the E of FE comes from.
Used in 1958 only.
Used in 1958 only.
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Originally Posted by rbaker6336
probly not a whole bunch that remember the Edsel
After a few thousand 1960's were built, the Edsel was discontinued on 2 November 1959.
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
2U = 390
2T = 352
2TA = 360
All FE engines of this vintage have 352 cast into the left front corner of the block, because that's what the block started life as....As John said above, on sale day, all 352 or 360 engines magically become 390's.
The engines look identical...measuring the stroke is the easiest way to tell a 360 from a 390.
2T = 352
2TA = 360
All FE engines of this vintage have 352 cast into the left front corner of the block, because that's what the block started life as....As John said above, on sale day, all 352 or 360 engines magically become 390's.
The engines look identical...measuring the stroke is the easiest way to tell a 360 from a 390.
This was true on my truck....I bought what was advertised as, and has a VIN for, a 1969 F-250......but have since discovered it is actually a 1967 with a hood and at least one door from a 1969, and a tranny package from a 78-79 F-250......oh, and my engine was one of those 360/390? deals which the '67 didn't even offer stock (biggest they used in '67 was the 352 as a stock engine). Though I now know that I have a 390 as a bought a new one in august to replace the old engine....
Just keep in mind that someone else before you may have done a "custom job" and told no one about it....lol...makes for fun discovery at the parts store/in the driveway though!
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
You're the 1st person on FTE that knew anything about the engine. It's where the E of FE comes from. Used in 1958 only.
Yall need to use email because you are in the middle of someone elses thread. IMHO
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Originally Posted by Unimog005
Another thing to consider / remember (and I don't see it mentioned much in these posts) is that you may not have much, if any, of the original equipment the truck came with....so, the VIN decoding could be pointless.