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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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Hello Phatpharm85
It looks like you were having a little fun welding that light gauge metal.I"ll let you in on a little secret. Get you self a piece of1/4" copper plate and clamp to the back,try not get the plate to hot if you do cool it off in water. You'll find this will work great with filling in smaller holes in fenders or other light gauge metal.
Hope to here how you make out with this little trick.

AJ46 Happy welding
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mark a.
As far as body work welding & gas type goes you should only use c02 for body work. Mixed gases put impurities into the weld that can lead to problems with body work and painting.
A friend of mine that attended a PPG paint school told me this.
I understand how CO2 helps to sustain the arc, but I'd be very interested in learning how an inert gas (like Argon) contributes to impurities in the weld bead. Is this why more reactive metals like Aluminum and Titainium require pure Argon? *edit* or Heilum, whatever.....
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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hello phatpharm85 solution to your burn though

Hello their southern neighbor, I'll let you in on my secret to working with light gauge metal welding.Get your self 1/4"copper plate use it as a backer plate, weld your seems like you would nomally. Try not toget the plate to hot ,it might stick but that's ok.peel it off and cool in some water.Once you get the hang of how hot you are getting the plate it will get easier,to know if is to hot. you can use this method for heavier gauges as well. Best of luck with my little trick.

AJ46
 
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 06:13 AM
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I would love to debate this last post but I don't like to type that much.

We all need to sit down this summer around an ice tea gazing out onto a nice lake or river and have this debate. Of course, who would want to debate anything while enjoying good company, and ice tea and all of the spender one can take in?
 
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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Smile reply to welding trick

Hey their Zoomeroo
I'm not the debating type I would'nt lead you a stay. I'm a farm Brat that has grew up and work a lot of trades mech,machinist,welder. I use this trick alot with a bore ID welder and this is the most effecient way to start my welding bead against the copper plate so I don't get much weld over lapping off the edge of the metal I'm working with. When I figure out how to get some of my work pics on here , you'll see how well it actaully works.

Talk at you soon AJ46
 
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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Thin metal welding

Dear AJ46 - I didn't mean debate your response. I meant that using only CO2 is best for thin metals. Your copper back up plate idea is great and i have seen it specified in a welding procedure for one of the gov jobs we did many years ago.

The bottom line with welding is simple. Do what ever works well for the job at hand. Certifed work requires following procedures that may or may not be needed for non certified work.

I love the welding field as well as a couple of other fields and I love to talk about them as well. But not on a forum, under a shade tree with an ice tea works best for me.,

No one knows it all.
Enjoy working on your toys
 
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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thanks guys, i guess it's been a while since i've checked back on this thread, lol. I've been working 7 day weeks for the past few weeks, so any free time i get has been spent relaxing. hopefully this weekend i'll get some stuff done, i'm only working sunday 8-3 so we'll see how it goes.
 
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