how bad is Fram?
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From: Bossier City, LA
Originally Posted by 89Flivver
If you are buying Fram, you are paying too much!).
Originally Posted by 89Flivver
It requires you to stop the impulse "I guess I need to change oil today, I should go to WallyWorld for my Fram," but if you plan ahead, you will always get Wix, NAPA Gold and PureOne cheaper than Frams. Especially if you buy for the next 4 changes like I do using Amazon.com or even better fleetfilter (a sponsor here).
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I have dismantled Fram filters and if not cardboard, it is approximately cardboard. Either way, I prefer metal end caps and a threaded end antidrainback valve of Wix or Motorcraft and some (few) Purolators. I don't make any other claim against Fram than the end caps as I really have no evidence on any other aspects of the filter.
Brian A, that AA filter of yours just may be an e-core design. Look inside for the plastic cage.
But don't you guys all want the Ford spec threaded end antidrainback. If you don't want to use Fram, I would think you would at least use Motorcraft. Last I looked Motorcraft filters were under $4 (at least for the FL1A).
Brian A, that AA filter of yours just may be an e-core design. Look inside for the plastic cage.
But don't you guys all want the Ford spec threaded end antidrainback. If you don't want to use Fram, I would think you would at least use Motorcraft. Last I looked Motorcraft filters were under $4 (at least for the FL1A).
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From: Trussville, Alabama
Originally Posted by TallPaul
Brian A, that AA filter of yours just may be an e-core design. Look inside for the plastic cage.
I went and checked two different AA filters I have in the garage. Both appear to be all metal construction (save the filter media of course).
They actually seem to be pretty robust filters. The outside shell is not a flimsy metal.
I wonder who makes 'em?
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From: covington wa.
I've used fram filters since my 70' mustang and all the vehicles in between never have had a single problem, and the one that blames the fram for blowing up his motor I CAll B.S. most of the time it's the person that does his own oil changes that does something wrong in the course of doing the change and for sure theres always some people who have just BAD luck which is unfortunate. So when are people going to accept there own faults and not blame everything that goes wrong on the things and parts they use.
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From: Llano and Huntsville, TX
Originally Posted by khadma
Motorcraft filters are right next to the Frams in Walmart. I do not know if they carry your part, but Walmart has the ones for my trucks, 4 dollars a piece.
also it was said on certain website too but from personal experience the yellow penzoil filters that the local oil changing place uses is identical to the orange fram filter. i know for sure they allow dry restarts plus i still have some engine noise when i use them, zero when the motorcraft filter is used.
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I buy oil filters based on filtering efficiency vs. price and Fram "Tough Gaurd" usually comes out on top.
Are you sure it wasn't the windshield washer fluid you used in your GTO that caused it to blow? No seriously was it?
Are you sure it wasn't the windshield washer fluid you used in your GTO that caused it to blow? No seriously was it?
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From: North of Normal
Originally Posted by jpeters1
I buy oil filters based on filtering efficiency vs. price and Fram "Tough Gaurd" usually comes out on top.
Are you sure it wasn't the windshield washer fluid you used in your GTO that caused it to blow? No seriously was it?
Are you sure it wasn't the windshield washer fluid you used in your GTO that caused it to blow? No seriously was it?
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Originally Posted by mrxlh
Well you show me some Motorcraft, Wix or Purolator oil filters for the 6.0 for 2 for $7 and I'll kiss your *** and give you 30 min. to draw a crowd.
2. Pricing, did you follow my recommendation and actually go to fleetfilter and/or amazon????????
3. And one clarification. I suspect that Motorcraft is a superior filter, but Motorcraft folks have been dead silent to my queries about filtration efficiency, so I cannot make any judgements on that.
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No just being honest. 6.0 psd oil filters are usually $20 and up for the Wix, Purolator and Motorcraft. The Fram are $15 everyday. Again, I think you missed the point of my post, the Wix and Purolator are knock off filters and not oem approved racor design filters. Which have been linked to the same issues you Fram haters have often said about the fram, while touting the quality of Wix and Purolator. Trust me if the filters were as cheap as the Fram specials that run periodicly 2 for $7 deal, no one would buy them anyway, because they are not racor.
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Originally Posted by Old Tired Rebel
He also believed in Quaker State and he wondered why his cars don't last too long.
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From: Bossier City, LA
Went to Amazon and their Fram filters are $2 more than at china-mart, so no deal there, as for the wix/napa filters, like I said before, I won't use them because they are imitation racor and not oem approved.
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Originally Posted by mrxlh
Went to Amazon and their Fram filters are $2 more ....
Amazon sells Fram?????? Please do not tell me it is so! What is Beezos thinking of!
I now have to shred my Amazon CC, cancel my account, and go to the regional decontamination site before I can feel clean again.
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From: Bossier City, LA
Originally Posted by 89Flivver
Amazon sells Fram?????? Please do not tell me it is so! What is Beezos thinking of!
I now have to shred my Amazon CC, cancel my account, and go to the regional decontamination site before I can feel clean again.
I have 81,000 miles on my 05 PSD, since the very first oil change it has had Fram filters used exclusively in it. Zero problems. Had 60,000 on my 03 PSD, in which I always ran Fram filters in it. Again zero problems. My 97 Silverado had 196,000 miles on it when I traded it in on the 03 PSD, (I bought it with 87,000 on it) I also chose to run Fram filters in it, zero problems. Both my 89 Sporster and 96 Dyna Lowrider also had Fram filters on them as well, again zero issues.............see a pattern here? Surely by now I would have been unlucky since choosing to run Fram filters in every vehicle I and my wife have owned since 1995 and had one of the many failures that have been often touted here on the FTE. I believe in luck, but as bad as everyone here makes Fram filters out to be, surely I am not that lucky.