Fuel pump/ vacuum?
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Fuel pump/ vacuum?
I'm finally at the stage where I get to try and start my baby. It's a 1960 F350 but I can't get it to start. I suspect the fuel pump since the vacuum isnt that strong to the fuel tank. Is there a way that I can be sure that the fuel pump is broken? And if it is should I rebuild it or buy a new one?
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Yesterday I started my '59 and got it to run for the first time. I had the same problem. Here's how mine played out. I took apart the fuel pump and found it clogged with sludge. Couldn't get a rebuild kit so I replaced it with (with a non-vacuum wiper model). Since the sludge had to come from somewhere and go somewhere else, I sent off the carb for rebuild and took the gas tank to get glass beaded and coated. An alarming amount of sludge came out of the tank, so I went one more step and replaced all the fuel lines and the badly corroded sender.
I could have gotten by with somewhat less work I guess, but today vroom ... vroom. Adjusted the idle and mixture and got to tell the wife that it will too run.
I'd do the same again.
I could have gotten by with somewhat less work I guess, but today vroom ... vroom. Adjusted the idle and mixture and got to tell the wife that it will too run.
I'd do the same again.
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Steel357,
You might try gravity feed to see if the engine will start. I used a turkey baster and some gas line. Hold the turkey baster (or whatever) a couple of feet up in the air. If it starts that way, you know you have problems with the fuel supply.
Cal
You might try gravity feed to see if the engine will start. I used a turkey baster and some gas line. Hold the turkey baster (or whatever) a couple of feet up in the air. If it starts that way, you know you have problems with the fuel supply.
Cal
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Yeah sorry its a 223 with a single barrel carb. The fuel tank, carb and fuel pump are all supposed to be new according to my grandpa and look pretty new. Thanks guys. I tried blowing through the fuel line but to no avail. That turkey baster idea sounds great, thanks Cal. Back to trouble shooting!
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cal401, do you mean disconnect existing fuel-line ..then add turkey baster with fuel to carb fuel line just short of the carb??
Yeah, I can see that as a way ( as long as you do it safely.) to isolate the fuel system..if it starts.
Then you will have to work your way back to the tank.
Yeah, I can see that as a way ( as long as you do it safely.) to isolate the fuel system..if it starts.
Then you will have to work your way back to the tank.
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Steel357, I just saw the above post, this has to be a simple fix.
I would Disconnect the fuel-line at the carb,..put a suitable hose over it, clamp it if nec.,put the other end of the hose in a 1 gallon bottle, and crank the engine..GOT FUEL?? Let us know.
I would Disconnect the fuel-line at the carb,..put a suitable hose over it, clamp it if nec.,put the other end of the hose in a 1 gallon bottle, and crank the engine..GOT FUEL?? Let us know.
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If the fuel pump, tank and carb are new, I bet the problem is the fuel lines. Try blowing through them (with some clean tubing between your mouth and the tube). Or go from a gas can (the fuel tank from an outboard would be better) to the pump and from the pump to the carb with clean gas line.
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The turkey baster is ideal for this since you don't have to fiddle around trying to connect a hose to some other reservoir; 5/16" gas line slips right over the tip. I use and in-line gas filter, so I hook the hose to the end of the steel gas line at the filter. The baster holds enough fuel to start and idle for a few minutes, yet the amount of fuel is small enough to not be a major hazard if it spills. I take the rubber squeezey thing off and wrap some iron wire around the neck so I can hang it like an IV bottle under the hood.
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Once you get all this worked out put one of those see through plastic gas line filters in your sytems before the pump.
One of my old timer friends has stressed this for many years and its saved me.
You should see what the newer fuels do after about 6 years of setting.
I rebuilt a carb this winter and it was covered in chalk like material thatw ouldnt rub off. I had to soak it in a few types of chems. Like clr and carb cleaner. The carb cleaner didnt do much.
One of my old timer friends has stressed this for many years and its saved me.
You should see what the newer fuels do after about 6 years of setting.
I rebuilt a carb this winter and it was covered in chalk like material thatw ouldnt rub off. I had to soak it in a few types of chems. Like clr and carb cleaner. The carb cleaner didnt do much.