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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 08:40 AM
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Very Strange Problem

Hey guys, My 96 has about 265k miles on it and no mods that I know of. My check engine light will come on and the RPMs will drop down to idle. I will have to lift off the throttle and press it down again to get the engine to wake back up. Also once this has happened the trans will start shifting funny. It will shift through the gears quickly to high gear even at low speeds and bog the engine down. Sometimes these shifts can be very hard too. After a while the trans will go back to normal. The problem happens more when the engine isn't warmed up good but does do it at all times. It's been doing this maybe every other day but this morning it did it like 5 or 6 time on my way to work so I turned around and came home. Don't want to be stuck in downtown Houston with a dead truck. One more thing, put the scanner on it to try and see if it threw a code and none where found. Any suggestions?

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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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Get it scanned for codes, that's the best way to pinpoint the trouble. That being said I would check the Rear Antilock Brake sensor (RABS) on the top of the rear axle may cause the weirdness you're experiencing, possibly the Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) but those are just guesses.

Remove the RABS and clean the crud off it, check the wire socket and pins for corrosion ect. re-install it and see what happens.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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I have an Actron OBD II scanner but it comes up with "no codes found". Will check the TPS and RABS.
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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most of the obd 2 scanners won't read your trucks
 
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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What kind of scanner would I need?
 
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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Take it to Autozone...sometimes they can scan our diesels. It depends on the guy using it. Some Actrons will work.

Each scanner maker is different. You need to ask if they are capable of scanning our diesels. Some are...some aren't.

IMO, The trouble you are are having isn't OBD specific, I believe it's the RABS, it cannot be detected through the OBD port. It sends a signal to the Programmable Speedometer Odometer Module (PSOM) that inturn sends a signal to the PCM that inturn sends signals to the tranny telling it when to shift. The RABS is magnetic and will accumulate fine metal shavings greatly reducing the signal output. If you clean the "fuzz" off of it and ake it work again.

When the RABS is bad the OD light on the shifter will usually blink, the tranny shifts hard.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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Ok, I thought about replacing the TPS because I found one for 35$. Come to find out I'm looking at the "Pedal" position sensor and thats why the parts dont look the same. DOH. I've looked all over the engine and can't find a TPS,
not to say its not there, just I dont know where to find it.(maybe it's not there, maybe it doesn't have one, only The Shadow knows) Anyway, I'm going to get a "PPS" and clean the RABS and hope that cures the problem. If it has one, should I replace the TPS also?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 96_4xStroke
Ok, I thought about replacing the TPS because I found one for 35$. Come to find out I'm looking at the "Pedal" position sensor and thats why the parts dont look the same. DOH. I've looked all over the engine and can't find a TPS,
not to say its not there, just I dont know where to find it.(maybe it's not there, maybe it doesn't have one, only The Shadow knows) Anyway, I'm going to get a "PPS" and clean the RABS and hope that cures the problem. If it has one, should I replace the TPS also?
TPS is on the pedal ...

Never heard of it causing the trans to go into limp though...
 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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I am probably wrong but if there was a short somewhere would or could this happen,the other week I had my batteries unhooked and when I hooked them back up my truck also shifted this way.

Also I had a 91 f250 gasser that did what you are explaining and it ended up being the starter sounds silly but it was shorting out the truck it was almost like someone had flicked a switch or unhooked the batteries.

It,s probably not the problem but you never know

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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by WALJON
I am probably wrong but if there was a short somewhere would or could this happen,the other week I had my batteries unhooked and when I hooked them back up my truck also shifted this way.

Also I had a 91 f250 gasser that did what you are explaining and it ended up being the starter sounds silly but it was shorting out the truck it was almost like someone had flicked a switch or unhooked the batteries.

It,s probably not the problem but you never know

WALTER
Why did you unhook the batteries ?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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I was doing some work on the truck
 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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Just wondering if disconnecting the batteries long enough reset PCM and if that is common. Did your shifting problem fix its self eventually?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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YES it did
 
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