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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 07:28 AM
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Well, its about that time to change da oil in da beast. I was wondering if i could use ford powerstroke oil for it. I was thinking of either using that or the delo, which is what has always been run in it. I'm using Rotella T right now, which is cheaper than delo, but the ford diesel is cheaper than rotella t. Is this just something where i would get what I paid for?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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Any of the oils you have listed are fine.
More like a personal prefferance type of thing.

The IDI really only needs to meet or exceed CD or CE SAE spec.
The Strokes need to exceed CI-4 because of the oil fired injectors.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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Watch out, I bought motocraft oil, thinking it was gallon jugs, poured two and half jugs in my truck, it was 5quart jugs, i had to drain more out
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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My 2cents... I think it is better to always use the same oil. I know they are all "compatable" with each other but I swear I have better looking oil at the end when I don't change brands. I would stick with the Rotella, walmart has it for pretty resonable ($9 15w40 and $16 full synthetic 5w40).. delo is about the same price... last time i bought it they were both in 1 gal containers. Some of the other brands come in 5qt containers. Even the walmart branded 15w40 (they were getting it from texaco.. not sure who they contract with now) exceeds the requirements of these motors.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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when I had my car I liked to use a differnt brand or formula each time cuz each company had different additives to traet different things but with my diesel I've always used non synthetic rotella-t.

Havent realy seen anything at the stores that doesnt meet or exceed ci-4 atleast in the stuff that was intended for diesels.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 04:47 AM
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when I had my car I liked to use a differnt brand or formula each time cuz each company had different additives .
That is the reason for not switching. I may be wrong but it seems to me it is better to not mix different chemicals together. Never know what reactions you will end up producing. I am the same way with additives too (except fuel additives since those just get burned). I found that my oil stayed cleaner when I consistantly use the same oil. I had an 84 nissan sentra that I always used castrol 20w50 in. Even when I "missed" my regular 5000 mile interval.. even with 8000 miles on the oil one time it was still golden. I bought it with 120K miles and sold with over 360K miles to a little old lady.. who called a day later to say how she loved her new car.. she had driven over 500 miles to visit her daughter's home for the first time. I miss that car when I am at a gas station, a 500 mile trip was one tank of fuel (13gal tank) I don't get anywhere near that kind of milage now!

I am a bit off topic again.. but why is it that in 1984 there were cars that could get 40mpg and so few today? (unless you count hybrids) but why does it take a hybrid to get that mpg today? Why does it take all that technology to make a underpowered car when that sentra was carburated and I got 43mpg on trips and 36mpg average all around driving. I don't know what the hp ratings were, it was not over powered by any means but I could climb all the way over Donner summit without dropping below 65mph (unless i was caught behind a truck)... yes.. I just filled up my fuel tanks for $100..
 
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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I am a bit off topic again.. but why is it that in 1984 there were cars that could get 40mpg and so few today? (unless you count hybrids) but why does it take a hybrid to get that mpg today? Why does it take all that technology to make a underpowered car when that sentra was carburated and I got 43mpg on trips and 36mpg average all around driving. I don't know what the hp ratings were, it was not over powered by any means but I could climb all the way over Donner summit without dropping below 65mph (unless i was caught behind a truck)...

Who cares if its off topic, my answer would prob be the oil companies being friends with the auto builders. My 93 f350 gets 20 mpg on diesel no 2 and i saw an article that had a stock 6.0 that got 17. it seems to me that when you can almost perfect timing, and you can control the fuel your using the mpg would increase. There is a ford I4 diesel in the uk that gets around 40 mpg, why isn't it here? I think that there will be a 70 mpg vw polo coming here soon (it is already been everywhere else).
 
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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its because you cant make money if you dont keep changing technology, new stuff equals more money
 
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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The American way, have a problem, throw money at it till it goes away.

If that don't fix the problem, refer to line one.

I would worry if I drove a vehicle 5000 miles and the oil was still clean looking.
That would tell me the detergent package was not doing much.
 

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look at the sise of that sentra compared to todays every things getting bigger and emsions are getting stricter and it seems like at this point they are counterproductive because you polute half as much but burn twice as much fule of course logic means nothing to tree huggers I mean they hug trees for crying out loud. Its just like global warming, "oh no the pollar ice caps are melting it must be polution!" Wait so all this ice that formed when the sun was blocked out by dust from a metiorite impact is mellting now that the sun, a very large radiant heat source, is shining on it? yeah polution might make it melt a week sooner but I really doubt its the main cause. or am I wrong? maybe I'm miss informed and the su isn't hot.

ok I'm done sorry.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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2010 emissions for diesels are basically this: the emissions coming out of the exhaust should have less pollutants the intake air... vehicles have to take a hit because big industry buys its way out of emissions regulations.... life's tough when your a simple american
 
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by George D.
look at the sise of that sentra compared to todays every things getting bigger and emsions are getting stricter and it seems like at this point they are counterproductive because you polute half as much but burn twice as much fule of course logic means nothing to tree huggers I mean they hug trees for crying out loud. Its just like global warming, "oh no the pollar ice caps are melting it must be polution!" Wait so all this ice that formed when the sun was blocked out by dust from a metiorite impact is mellting now that the sun, a very large radiant heat source, is shining on it? yeah polution might make it melt a week sooner but I really doubt its the main cause. or am I wrong? maybe I'm miss informed and the su isn't hot.

ok I'm done sorry.
I was comparing to the small cars like the prius.. they aren't very large and not very powerful. Some people around here bought them for commuting and found they barely made it over Altamont pass.. and the mpg wasn't much of an improvment (on the highway) so they quit driving the hybrids because they didn't save fuel and you couldn't keep with the flow of traffic (which is bumper to bumper). I suppose I am a little ticked off at california legislature for accepting hybrids as 1/2 of a zero emission car. As soon as they did that Ford and GM scrapped all the electric cars they had out on lease here. My friend really wanted to keep his electric Ford Ranger but they refused. It went to the crusher with the rest. When I worked at McClellan AFB (12yrs ago) we had a few electric vehicles even a E250 van, it had great power even with 13 people in it. Tesla motors is employing some of the engineers that worked for GM and Ford 10 years ago. Electric cars that can go 0 to 60 in 4seconds!!! woohoo! Maybe I can get a job with them?

Burning 2x as much and polluting less doesn't have the effect on global warming that you might think. We are getting more complete burn of the fuel to reduce the "harmful" emissions. 100% effecient burn releases h2o and co2. What is the #1 greenhouse gas? h2o. A bit further down the list is co2. Thus the more you burn the more greenhouse gas released. I agree with you for the most part, pollution isn't the only cause and that it is accelerating the effect and auto emissions are only a part of that. We have been releasing large amounts of carbon into the atmosphere over the last 150 years, which had been locked away in organic matter for millions of years. And we are removing large areas of vegetation which had been taking the carbon and putting it back into organic matter again. Even parking lots have a impact on surface temperature. We removed 95-98% of the wetlands in California, that has no effect? We had also been putting particulate matter into the air along with the carbon. (seen any photos taken in Philidelphia in the 1950s?) Particulates in the air have the effect of cooling the surface by not allowing all the sunlight to reach the surface. They are terming that effect global dimming and it has been masking the effects of global warming. During the last 30+ yrs we have been getting the air clear again. Now the question we are left with: as the dimming effects subside how big an effect will the increase will our actions have on global warming? We will never know because we don't know what might have been without our actions, it is a natural process and there have been mass extictions several times in the earths history... we are just along for the ride!

Sorry if I am going overboard with this... was just thinking of those spotted moths in england that in the late 1800s they thought were extinct.. but discovered that the solid black moths which were suddenly everywhere were the same species just a variation that had seldom been seen, before the landscape was black! Now the spotted moths are back.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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Yeah my old auto shop teachers mom had one of thouse electric cars untill ford took it back and scraped it that was back in the 80's
 
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