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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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Tea kettle noise all gone

Finally the tea kettle noise is gone. Ford diagnosed it as the infamous head gasket problem. The diagnosis took 3 dealerships and 6 months. They let me supply the ARP studs as well. The only setback was the dealership said the repair would take 4 days and it took 3 weeks due to parts and busy shop. All in all it was worth the wait. I own a small construction Co. and I got Ford to pay me $50/day for a truck rental. I still had to pay the difference in what the truck actually cost me but they covered about 75%.

So far so good. Time for the Methanol/ water injection from ID. Anyone have any feedback on the Stage 3 system. HP gains, milage, etc... ?
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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i have this noise and ford said it is normal but i insisted it is not. what should i tell them when i bring it back to check? What symptoms did you tell them was wrong with the truck? How can i get them to fix this?? please help.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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You have to be persistant and try different dealerships. It's a lot of work on your part. I had a big problem since I use my truck for my own business. Ford is not going to spend $2,500 k plus to fix the problem if you don't push them. Coolant puking and tea kettle noise is almost for sure the head gaskets. Try to find a dealership that has a commercial truck department that has done a lot of head gaskets before. The dealership I found knew all about pulling the cab to do the work and allowed me to use ARP head studs. Pulling the cab is the way to go to get the job done right. If you are near NJ I can recommend the dealership.

What is your year truck and what mods and symptoms ?
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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2007 no mods but the ones in my signiture nothing major symptoms are the teakettle noise or some may say beer bottle whistleing when i am in boost around 5-10 psi. and lately i am noticing smoke on start up, but not all the time only when cold out. what did yours do? i am going to brind it back to ford and tell them again another buddy of mine had this same problem and it was the headgaskets see what they say.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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im not too happy about hearing this, i started my truck today at 2 degrees outside with a -30 windchill, let it warm up and then started driving and got the high pitched tea kettle whistle. the power seems to be normal but i checked the degas bottle and it looks higher than i remember it last time i had the hood up. ive had the truck for only 4 months and its out of warranty. looks like it will be expensive but atleast i can get arp studs now for the spartan tunes i want. 2005 6.0 psd harley cc sb. sorry for sort of highjacking.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by zss42002
2007 no mods but the ones in my signiture nothing major symptoms are the teakettle noise or some may say beer bottle whistleing when i am in boost around 5-10 psi. and lately i am noticing smoke on start up, but not all the time only when cold out. what did yours do? i am going to brind it back to ford and tell them again another buddy of mine had this same problem and it was the headgaskets see what they say.
I'm not seeing that you have coolant puking out of the degas bottle. Are you getting this too, or just the "beer bottle whistle"?
The way you describe the beer bottle whistle, it almost sounds like what has been described as "the 6.0 drone". Kind of a wooourrrr type of sound. If this is what you are hearing, this is normal.
I think the whistle described in the original post is more of a high pitched whistle, like that of a tea kettle.
It's hard to know for sure, as I can't hear what you are hearing, but I thought I would chime in just in case. I would hate to see someone be unnecessarily alarmed about their new truck, when they didn't have anything wrong. Hopefully it is only the drone... Do a search on this forum and see if it matches what you are hearing.

Good luck though. I hope you get it figured out.
 

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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 05:22 AM
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it is a beer bottle type whoooo only does this when i am in boost usually around 5-10psi. i have done many searches on this and talked to many people aout this. some say it is prob. others say it is normal. I guess the noise can be described as tea kettle noise too. It is not the turbo noise that is normal i know what the turbo sounds like. Not to be a smart ***. The noise i am getting is that noise the normal turbo whine and this high pitched whooo. To hear the noise the stereo has to be off and i have to be listening to it. Hope this helps a lil. THere is a post going on about FTEers that have this noise I believe it is does your turbo do this.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 05:39 AM
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My head gaskets one or both are blown and there is no mistake about the type of noise it is a whistle not a wooo and the bottle pukes a gallon a week if I keep the revs below 2500.Smoke on cold starts is normal.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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ok started my truck up this mornin. it is about 10degres and very windy here in NewEngland. Smoked a lil. on my way to work lil smoke. Let the truck get to normal temps. Only smokes when i give it throttle from a stop. White smoke comes out but only for like a sec and then stops. It is like a puff of white smoke then goes away. this does it even if i am in motion let off the throttle and give it 1/4 throttle puff of white smoke then it goes away. It maybe b/c it is so freakin cold here today. Now for the whooo sound it comes and goes. Does it more and louder when it is colder out. Also checked my degas bottle it is below min. but this may be b/c i just added a coolant filter and didnt fill it up with antifreeze after.

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This is probably the best clip. Again i have this noise also and i know what to hear for. "Not the turbo whining the beer bottle whooooooo." Others might not hear what we are talking about b/c they dont know what to listen for. I beleive that this noise gets worst as it gets colder outside. Today is a pretty nice day out not too cold and the noise is not as loud as when it is really cold out. I hope others can chime in if they have the same noise that have brought it to the dealer and tell us what they say. Or someone with an explanation. Other than it is NORMAL.

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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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I noticed someone posted they had there head studs done at a dealer in NJ would you be able to let me know which dealer it was? My truck just blew coolant all down the frame rail. Thanks
 
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by zss42002
i have this noise and ford said it is normal but i insisted it is not. what should i tell them when i bring it back to check? What symptoms did you tell them was wrong with the truck? How can i get them to fix this?? please help.
I know that I've addressed this with you once, but now that your aligning the sound you have with the "tea kettle" noise, you again have my attention. This may not be what I thought it was when I first responded to you.

When I bought my truck it had "tea kettle" noise. Because the truck was (and is) under the 5/100, I had no worries about it being repaired. At the time I was actually kind of excited that the head gaskets might actually be blown! It would have been a great way to get studs in that bad-boy right out of the gate, but alas, it was not to be...

My "tea kettle" was that made by the EGR and OIL coolers blowing coolant just a tiny little bit. So little in fact, that the coolant loss was nearly undetectable. Tell-tale whiffs of coolant were the only other subtitle symptom. After the replacement of those components my "tea kettle" was gone, but my intake vortex whistle remains.

It's food for thought...
 
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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[QUOTE=John Kiernan]If you are near NJ I can recommend the dealership.

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Yeah, please let us know which one you went to.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ozx3+1
I know that I've addressed this with you once, but now that your aligning the sound you have with the "tea kettle" noise, you again have my attention. This may not be what I thought it was when I first responded to you.

When I bought my truck it had "tea kettle" noise. Because the truck was (and is) under the 5/100, I had no worries about it being repaired. At the time I was actually kind of excited that the head gaskets might actually be blown! It would have been a great way to get studs in that bad-boy right out of the gate, but alas, it was not to be...

My "tea kettle" was that made by the EGR and OIL coolers blowing coolant just a tiny little bit. So little in fact, that the coolant loss was nearly undetectable. Tell-tale whiffs of coolant were the only other subtitle symptom. After the replacement of those components my "tea kettle" was gone, but my intake vortex whistle remains.

It's food for thought...
hey ozx if you have the same noise that is in the link i posted in post #9 then we are talking about the same noise. I have an appointment on March 10 again to have them check on this noise i told them to do a pressure test b/c maybe it is a head gasket. Hopefully b/c i get to install studs, but with my luck they will say it is normal again. Anyway i will also mention to them to check the EGR and OIL coolers for leaks. Thank you again.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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hey ozx if you have the same noise that is in the link i posted in post #9 then we are talking about the same noise. I have an appointment on March 10 again to have them check on this noise i told them to do a pressure test b/c maybe it is a head gasket. Hopefully b/c i get to install studs, but with my luck they will say it is normal again. Anyway i will also mention to them to check the EGR and OIL coolers for leaks. Thank you again.
Yup... It sounded like that, but mine happened under more boost/higher RPM's. Other than that, the noise is exactly the same tone!
 
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:53 AM
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I have the same symptoms as zss42002.Apuff of white smoke or maybe even a little bluish when I hit the accelerator pedal.Doesn't matter how hard I stomp or how easy still a little puff that is noticable.Just got it back from the dealer,and I know the mechanic that works on it.They checked everything cannot determine at this time.It was only a little low on coolant about a 1/4 of a gallon.He said to run it more and keep a eye on the coolant level.Said could be the egr cooler on it's way out,but checked egr and everything was clean and dry.Then possibly head gasket just starting ti have a issue.I will update when something is confirmed.This is on a 2005 excursion 6.0 with 60000 miles.
 
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