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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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I yanked the engine out of my old pickup ( 1973 F250 4x4 ) It's supposed to be a 390. Anyway I can't read the casting code on the block ( or haven't cleaned the right spot yet ). It's has two bolt engine mounts but has ribs on the outside of the block. I've been reading HP ford interchange book they say two bolts is pre '65 and ribs go on 427's so I'm real confused now.

I spun a rod bearing and am trying to figure out exactly what it is that I have. Any ideas on how I could find out?

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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 07:28 AM
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Some of the interchange books can be sorta misleading. Ribs can be found on blocks from 68 into the 70's. Casting numbers might be on the right side of the block or in the lifter valley. And they are generic and really don't mean a whole lot as the same number can be found on different bore blocks. Since your doing a teardown your best bet is to measure the cyl bores. Look at the pistons to see if they are std, .010, .020 etc.... 390 was a 4.05 bore std. You can look at the date code of the block to timeframe it. It's below the oill filter adaper on a small angled part of the block. It's a number/letter/number(s) sequence. The first number might have 2 dots under it if it's a 70's casting. You can also check the crank numbers. 2U, 2UA or 3U were the common 390 cranks to find. It would be stamped on the side of one of the counterweights.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 08:59 AM
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Jim, I would suggest that you suspect it to be a 360, and be surprised if it's a 390. While there are a few factory 390 truck engines out there, and we know that they all are 390s on sale day the loins share were 352s and 360s.


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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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The valve cover says "390" which I know doesn't mean a darn thing but the old truck is 35 years old! According to the vin# it came with a 360. Again that's why I'm trying to figure out exactly what it is that I have!!! Hopefully this afternoon I can check on what FFR428 said and bring back something useful.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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360 crank numbers are 2T and 2TA with a 3.50" stroke. Long rods in the 360 would be C7TE-A.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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Two bolt mounts with the ribs sounds like the late 50's to early 60's block. Seen someone post a pic of one around in the last month. 390 crank will be 2U, 2UA, 3U or the earliers were C1 THRU C4AE'S multiple suffixes. The one book I have lists 13 different castings in these years.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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[QUOTE=baddad457]Two bolt mounts with the ribs sounds like the late 50's to early 60's block. Seen someone post a pic of one around in the last month. QUOTE]

Really??? I've never seen or heard of those. You remember where?? The very early FE blocks from 58 had 2 core plugs in the back of the block.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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Damn man, I'll have to think about it. Weird looking block casting with vertical and horizontal ribs too. I'm thinking it was here I saw those pics.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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Well if you remember let me know. Yea it does sound kinda weird.

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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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Maybe try Dave Shoe over on the network54 forum ? Bet someone there has pics. Don't think I saw them there though.
 
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I'll poke around and see what I can find thanks!!
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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Maybe try Dave Shoe over on the network54 forum ? Bet someone there has pics. Don't think I saw them there though.
I was gonna say, the only early block I've seen pics of here has been Bobby's. Not quite the picture you describe:
 
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Yea, that was it.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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Ok ok got it. The main thing I see in that block are the crossbolt bosses crying for some billet maincaps!!! LOL
 
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