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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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5.4 plugs

i see a lot of folks are getting broken spark plugs on their 5.4s. are these same problems happening on the expeditions with the 5.4? 2003-2006 in particular.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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if your talking about blown spark plugs, i believe the issue is mainly pre-2004 (or was it 2003?)
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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From what I hear,

2003 and older - possible blown plugs
2004 - 2006, maybe part of 2007 too - stuck plugs
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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yeah that's what i mean, stuck plugs. over in the f150 forums people have gotten broken plugs. i assume from them being stuck and trying to remove them. so it does affect 03-06 5.4 expeditions too, huh?
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bradplock
yeah that's what i mean, stuck plugs. over in the f150 forums people have gotten broken plugs. i assume from them being stuck and trying to remove them. so it does affect 03-06 5.4 expeditions too, huh?
Yup, it does affect Expeditions too.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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good to know, thanks guys
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 11:31 PM
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I believe the issue is in the design...so will have nothing to do with what vehicle it is in. 4.6 and 5.4s all use the plug through intake design with the coil over plug. What is going on is that dirt and water can seep into the channel where the plug is, and then basically cause the plug to weld itself to the head. I've heard of and seen many an engine have to have the heads removed so the plugs could be removed, then heli-coiled to fix the problem. Pretty lame from a design standpoint.

Mine will have an even bigger PITA next time the plugs are due, as I had a heater hose leak right above the back two plugs/coils on the passenger side...good old green stuff should hold those plugs in tight for me. ARGH!
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 11:43 PM
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^I thought it was due to combustion deposits building up on the shrouded plugs.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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That might be also...but the biggest issue I know of is water and debris getting down in the valley from the outside.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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My first post here. I looked the site up because of an issue with my 06 Navigator. Took it to the dealer Thursday to have new plugs, throttle body cleaning and engine induction service. She has 114K miles on her. I got the call Thursday afternoon that they would have to get me a loaner. They broke 7 of the 8 plugs off in the head. They said it was because of carbon build up around the lower part of the plug.They got them out today and I picked it up and headed home. drove about 10 miles total. About a mile from the house the engine started bucking, kinda like driving on a washboard dirt road. When I got home and checked under the hood I noticed oil comming up out of the #1 cylinder spark plug hole. Tow truck left with it about an hour ago. Any thought of comments would be helpfull to find out what I am up against.

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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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wow! 114,000 miles on an 06 model truck? man, i applaud you sir!! my wife's 04 expy just hit 40,000.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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I'm on the road alot! I took delivery on it in Nov 06, not even three years old yet.

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