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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 11:32 PM
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HTT (ball buster torbo)

doe,s eany of you have or used the htt ball buster turbo!!!!!! I have one on my truck it,s a o3--- 7.3.. I got the truck with it !!! and it ran fine with out a load but when I tow my 5th the egt,s are over 1200. I had a post on here that said high egt,s and through process of olim!!! found out that this turbo is notouris for high egt,s . just though I would put it out there to see if some has had the same and if they could overcome it!!!!!. at this time I,am looking for a replacement!!! back to stock and start again!!!!!
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 01:31 AM
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Don't go back to stock. The Ball buster is certainly better than the stocker. Aside from that we will need more info on what is going on.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 04:40 AM
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like Mike said..we need more info..but i would start by looking at the up pipes for any soot and check all 6 IC boots for splits or loose clamps..i built a boost leak detector to find boost leaks on my truck..
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 06:48 AM
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A BB for a stocker???? yeah Ill trade and pay the shipping, both ways. J/K, you need to keep the upgraded turbo, and find the boost leaks, or SINCE YOU ARE TOWING, look into doing the 6.0 intercooler swap, or even one of the more expensive ones (Spearco, DI, Swamps, BWD) they will give you an average of 100* to 200* drop in EGTs.

Might also want to look into what kind of tuning the truck has (if it came withthe Ball Buster, it probably has been tuned.) having the tuning adjusted for towing can also help to reduce EGTS. contact Jody at Dp tuner, or tony wildman.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 07:54 AM
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doe,s eany of you have or used the htt ball buster turbo!!!!!! and it ran fine with out a load but when I tow my 5th the egt,s are over 1200. ........ found out that this turbo is notouris for high egt,s .
What, WHAT, WHAT?!?!?!?

I love mine. EMPTY, I run a slightly higher EGT but towing there is absolutely NO COMPARISON.

Sounds to me like you need to stop towing in OD at 55 MPH. That'll cause high EGT in a heartbeat.

I am just ASSUMING that unless you have a boost leak, you are towing at too low of an RPM to get sufficient airflow.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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Give us all some more info, that is a good turbo I have run for many miles. I now have an upgraded version of it and will never go to a differant drop in. Nitrous has nothing to do with that turbo.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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Did someone say nitrous?

Anyone know any differences in these "TNs" besides the 'name.'

What gives here between the TN, HTT, USA... I know nothing of the difference, I've got a "real" Turbonetics (two of them) on a truck and would like to know the difference.

This is the first time I've heard of excessive EGT's while towing with a 'TN.' Far from "notorious."
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SolidGround
Did someone say nitrous?

Anyone know any differences in these "TNs" besides the 'name.'

What gives here between the TN, HTT, USA... I know nothing of the difference, I've got a "real" Turbonetics (two of them) on a truck and would like to know the difference.

This is the first time I've heard of excessive EGT's while towing with a 'TN.' Far from "notorious."

My bad... LOL

There is no differance in the design of the turbos, infact most were built in the same factory. But Turbonetics brough the manufacturing in house when quality became an issue. That is when you started seeing the polished compressor housings.

Now Turbonetics has added a Ball Bearing center section to that same turbo, makes it a whole nother beast! And they are working on a High Output version now as well.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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Joe, when you say "qaulity became an issue," so Turbonetics brought the manufacturing in house... was this the kind of problems they were eluding?

And could this be the problem with the OP's 'HTT?'

I would like to know what kind of RPMs he's trying to tow with...
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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first of all im not towing in od !!!! and I have already changed the doh nut on the up pipes and did the cv mod allso have a k&n cold air and I no that I doe,s not flow as well and have had the fuel pres. checked aswell as the hpop and injcters wires to. the truck is a 2003 7.3 crew cab 4x4 with 6" lift and 35" tires / 4" throug est. I also have a edge ev. with atud. also 430 gears and arb,s. I have two egt gages one in the man. and 1 inthe el. after the turbo...!!! as to the dp tuner I talked to Jody and he is one of the people the said that that turbo is not good for heavey towing!!! but he didn,t think he could help!!! but to get a gt38r and call him back and he would set me up!!!/. had the truck on the dino and hp was over330 and the high bost was32+. also talk to a nother tuner shop back east ????? well none and they said for bilding bost this turo was great but not somuch for towing my 10,000pound+ 5th wheel up 7000ft greads unless I wonted to hold it at 3000 rpm!!! and 1300+ egt<s no I dont think so!!! . I have had ford diesels from1985 / 1995 and2003 . I would trade this turbo for a stock rebuld and put a ats housing and w.wheel and start agin!!!. the truck olny has 60.000 on it oh!! it has a auto with a trans. up grade.... thank,s for all the help!!! and hope this well give you some clue to what I have been working with.... I have been talking with rich(white buff.) and he has been good help thank,s need help!!! doug in north ca.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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allso thank,s rich (white buff.) I had the pcm flached and all it did was idle better thank,s for your help doug from north ca.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 09:36 AM
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Might be a silly question... but the easiest way to lower EGTs is to put bigger exhaust on it.

You didn't mention anything about the exhaust... but if you're running a 4" it might be time to go bigger...

If you're not... then you're really choking the turbo.

Also, if your seeing 330hp @ 32psi... I think there is something wrong. Wouldn't those numbers be higher?
 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by hard puller



first of all im not towing in od !!!!


ok.....



Originally Posted by hard puller
allso have a k&n cold air and I no that I doe,s not flow as well


Who said that? They flow ok but filtering might be questionable.



Originally Posted by hard puller
6" lift and 35" tires


There's a trend starting....



Originally Posted by hard puller
I also have a edge ev. with atud.
Ok, so a "fuel only" box.



Originally Posted by hard puller
as to the dp tuner I talked to Jody and he is one of the people the said that that turbo is not good for heavey towing!!! but he didn,t think he could help!! but to get a gt38r and call him back and he would set me up!!!/.


So the IDENTICAL Turbonetics journal bearing is a POS, huh?



Originally Posted by hard puller
had the truck on the dino and hp was over330 and the high bost was32+.


Sounds good for your mods!!



Originally Posted by hard puller
also talk to a nother tuner shop back east ????? well none and they said for bilding bost this turo was great but not somuch for towing my 10,000pound+ 5th wheel up 7000ft greads unless I wonted to hold it at 3000 rpm!!! and 1300+ egt


Good for building boost? Hardly unless you're running decent sized hybrids or singles.....they flow good at high RPM though. I wouldn't think of towing EVER again with the stock turbo. I have NO issues with EGT (it's HARD to hit 1200 degrees towing with 3.73 gears....you say you have 4.30s).



I think you've got other things to look at!







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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 11:48 PM
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I have had the fuel pres. checked and also the hpop. the truck will pull hard at over 2500rpm but the egt is at about 1200 going up ahill about 1/4 mil un loaded just the truck!!!. or so... the trans. temp. is ok and the water is also good. but whenI tow the VW micro bus with the 28' travle trailor passes me !!!!! If you no what I mean!!!!! I think that droping the htt 88mm turbo and going to a stock turbo with a ats housing will get me past that VW-bus!!!!!! p.s. Ido have a 4" ext.
 
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I've towed up to 10000 in OD and didn't have a problem on the stock system. Why is towing in OD such an issue?
 
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