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why doesn't GVWR equal combined GAWR?

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Old 02-06-2008, 01:22 PM
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yes it is possible to perfectly balance a load done it often enough with a semi you need to know what move and how far. static load v.s. dynamic is a lot of crap when they rated that suspension for X pounds they considered the dynamic effects as well but static weight is the way they choose to describe the max weight they feel safe with. the reason that in this case the numbers don't jive is that if you were to load both axles to the max the brakes or the frame might become marginal they have to allow for vehicles that might be less than perfectly maintained as well, overall handling may deteriorate as well. i've loaded my 1 ton srw box heaped full of topsoil i don't know what it weighed but it was HEAVY and it swayed like a camel if i hadn't been extremely careful it could have wrecked. they also consider the ability of the transmission to standup thats why a higher ratio rearend usually comes on higher gvw. also if you loaded both axles to max you might find general acceleration to be less than desired or expected
 

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Nitrogen, I used to drive too. I know it's a lot easier to balance the load in a semi that it is on our F-x50s. Sliding tandems and sliding fivers help. ;-)
And in a semi, with a "legal" limit of 80,000 lbs, and a 14,000 lbs steer and 40,000 lbs drive and 40,000 lbs trailer axles, I still wasn't loading the axles to max.
 
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Originally Posted by highland61
My money is on wheels, based on materials and ratings; tires, based on air pressure and ratings; axle ratios.

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i second that, i bent 2 of my stock rims plowing, ooopppss.
 
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Originally Posted by nitrogen
...static load v.s. dynamic is a lot of crap...
[Projection?!?]





Yup, (burp) Lod 'em up! When you as good as me them wates don't mean nuthin'!

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perhaps that came out wrong its not so much static v.s. dynamic, as the fact that really fords number already is what they feel it can handle dynamically without exceeding the parameters they have decided on. when you think about it they rated your truck for how much they think it can safely move down the road, not for how much you could load on it in the parking lot without squashing it. yeah no doubt it is easier to shift weight in a semi with all those slidey things, and practice is a big part of that, however with enough preplanning and experience almost anything can balance pretty good. unfortunately most pickup drivers either won't worry about it or don't know how to go about it. ford doesn't know what kind of crazy load you want to haul and just how topheavy it might be, so their lawyers insist on big enough margins to let you screw up pretty good without getting hurt. cener of gravity is a big factor in how much weight you can haul, thats why they have a camper package and not just a towing pkg
 
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+1 Nitrogen...

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