Electric Locker
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From: San Diego
Originally Posted by riverratt
Nissan Titan is the only truck with electronically locking differential.
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I see zero reason in a electronic locker...by the way you may want to find out exactly if it is a locker or spool once engaged. Many people get confused on how they work. I may be mistaken but I believe the Taccoma and Turdra differential is a spool once engaged...not a locker. The rubicon is also another example of this once the 'lockers' are engaged they are spools not lockers. The ARB, OX are spools once engaged. My brother has a Silverado HD2500 with Dmax and a locking differential in the rear from the factory....seemless transaction, you would never know its not a limited slip other then when a limited slip...slips.
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Toyota Tacoma's with TRD package have electronic locking diffs. Have had them since 1998. Tundra's do not have them, just (electronic) limited slip. GM's do not have an E-locker, but a mechanical locker that engages on its own depending on slippage. Jeep Wrangler Rubicons and Mercedes G-wagons have front and rear lockers. Early Land cruisers had rear lockers with front optional. Titans with off-road package have an e-locker. Hummer H3's and H2's with adventure package have rear E - lockers. I believe those are the only vehicles available with e- lockers like the 09 F150 will have. It will most likely only engage in low range.
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From: Coal Country, ND
Originally Posted by barry1me
I see zero reason in a electronic locker...by the way you may want to find out exactly if it is a locker or spool once engaged. Many people get confused on how they work. I may be mistaken but I believe the Taccoma and Turdra differential is a spool once engaged...not a locker. The rubicon is also another example of this once the 'lockers' are engaged they are spools not lockers. The ARB, OX are spools once engaged. My brother has a Silverado HD2500 with Dmax and a locking differential in the rear from the factory....seemless transaction, you would never know its not a limited slip other then when a limited slip...slips.
, I'd much rather run a selectable differential (either open or locked, my choice not due to wheelspeed or any other electrical nanny) than a limited slip. Especially in the winter time, an open diff is much more stable than a limited slip, and 1000x more stable than a locked diff. Once the going gets tough, be it deep snow, mud, etc. push the button for the diff lock and prepair to be amazed. Once you get back on the pavement unlock the diff and turn with ease. Have you ever tried to turn a locked up rear end on a hard surface
!Limited slips have clutch packs to wear out, a selectable locker will wear out eventually I'm sure (haven't heard of it, but everything wears out), but you'd have to rebuild alot of LS diffs in the meantime.
A locker and a spool function EXACTLY the same when the diff is locked.
A spool is not a locker, and is not selectable. A spool is not a viable option for almost every vehicle, except for ones that take life a 1/4 of a mile at a time.
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I had an E-locker on my H3 and believe they are a very good idea, it was only able to activate in low and would disengage at 20 mph but if you are in a bad situation or trying to pull something in a low traction area it is better to go easy on the throtle and have both tires working for you than to have one tire slip before the other tire kicks in, this can be the difference between getting out or not (seen it with a Z-71 pulling a travel trailer, he couldn't get out of where he was parked, I came in with a locker and 4.1 t-case and pulled him out like we were on pavement)
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From: San Diego
Originally Posted by unrulee
Zero reason to have one , I'd much rather run a selectable differential (either open or locked, my choice not due to wheelspeed or any other electrical nanny) than a limited slip. Especially in the winter time, an open diff is much more stable than a limited slip, and 1000x more stable than a locked diff.
Once the going gets tough, be it deep snow, mud, etc. push the button for the diff lock and prepair to be amazed. Once you get back on the pavement unlock the diff and turn with ease. Have you ever tried to turn a locked up rear end on a hard surface!
Limited slips have clutch packs to wear out, a selectable locker will wear out eventually I'm sure (haven't heard of it, but everything wears out), but you'd have to rebuild alot of LS diffs in the meantime.
A locker and a spool function EXACTLY the same when the diff is locked.
A spool is not a locker, and is not selectable. A spool is not a viable option for almost every vehicle, except for ones that take life a 1/4 of a mile at a time.
, I'd much rather run a selectable differential (either open or locked, my choice not due to wheelspeed or any other electrical nanny) than a limited slip. Especially in the winter time, an open diff is much more stable than a limited slip, and 1000x more stable than a locked diff. Once the going gets tough, be it deep snow, mud, etc. push the button for the diff lock and prepair to be amazed. Once you get back on the pavement unlock the diff and turn with ease. Have you ever tried to turn a locked up rear end on a hard surface
!Limited slips have clutch packs to wear out, a selectable locker will wear out eventually I'm sure (haven't heard of it, but everything wears out), but you'd have to rebuild alot of LS diffs in the meantime.
A locker and a spool function EXACTLY the same when the diff is locked.
A spool is not a locker, and is not selectable. A spool is not a viable option for almost every vehicle, except for ones that take life a 1/4 of a mile at a time.
I agree. IMO a locker is much better than a limited slip. I like to be able to press a button and KNOW my rear is locked vs hoping is slips enough to lock. Even though most lockers can only be used in 4 low, some of them can be modified easily to use in 4hi and 2hi. I use my locker in 2 low when i am going through soft sand and it helps tremendiously! I am glad ford is adding it to their trucks for us few that appreciate it
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Originally Posted by unrulee
Zero reason to have one , I'd much rather run a selectable differential (either open or locked, my choice not due to wheelspeed or any other electrical nanny) than a limited slip. Especially in the winter time, an open diff is much more stable than a limited slip, and 1000x more stable than a locked diff.
Once the going gets tough, be it deep snow, mud, etc. push the button for the diff lock and prepair to be amazed. Once you get back on the pavement unlock the diff and turn with ease. Have you ever tried to turn a locked up rear end on a hard surface!
Limited slips have clutch packs to wear out, a selectable locker will wear out eventually I'm sure (haven't heard of it, but everything wears out), but you'd have to rebuild alot of LS diffs in the meantime.
A locker and a spool function EXACTLY the same when the diff is locked.
A spool is not a locker, and is not selectable. A spool is not a viable option for almost every vehicle, except for ones that take life a 1/4 of a mile at a time.
, I'd much rather run a selectable differential (either open or locked, my choice not due to wheelspeed or any other electrical nanny) than a limited slip. Especially in the winter time, an open diff is much more stable than a limited slip, and 1000x more stable than a locked diff. Once the going gets tough, be it deep snow, mud, etc. push the button for the diff lock and prepair to be amazed. Once you get back on the pavement unlock the diff and turn with ease. Have you ever tried to turn a locked up rear end on a hard surface
!Limited slips have clutch packs to wear out, a selectable locker will wear out eventually I'm sure (haven't heard of it, but everything wears out), but you'd have to rebuild alot of LS diffs in the meantime.
A locker and a spool function EXACTLY the same when the diff is locked.
A spool is not a locker, and is not selectable. A spool is not a viable option for almost every vehicle, except for ones that take life a 1/4 of a mile at a time.
I have owned several detroit lockers in jeeps, I have had a few lunch box style lockers, and have driven in a few GM trucks with mechanical lockers. All have performed excellent, never had any reliability issues, and the GM mechanical lockers are seemless on the street. I have never had a typical 'locker quirk..bang' when driving in any of the GM trucks.
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Originally Posted by barry1me
My point was not reffering to limited slips...limited slip differentials are far inferior to a mechanical locker, or a selectable. Yes most limited slip clutch packs will wear out much sooner then a simple mechanical locker. selectable lockers have many items that wear out as well though. Air lines, electrical connections, shift forks..etc. Ox lockers have issues with the cables stretching and shift forks. Arb's or like the factory Rubi lockers have issues with the air lines, and compressors. The function of a selectable locker engaged does not function like a mechanical locker. When turning with a mechanical locker, the locker will open, where as a selectable locker will stay connected (chirp of tires) untill it is disengaged.
I have owned several detroit lockers in jeeps, I have had a few lunch box style lockers, and have driven in a few GM trucks with mechanical lockers. All have performed excellent, never had any reliability issues, and the GM mechanical lockers are seemless on the street. I have never had a typical 'locker quirk..bang' when driving in any of the GM trucks.
I have owned several detroit lockers in jeeps, I have had a few lunch box style lockers, and have driven in a few GM trucks with mechanical lockers. All have performed excellent, never had any reliability issues, and the GM mechanical lockers are seemless on the street. I have never had a typical 'locker quirk..bang' when driving in any of the GM trucks.
Any mechanical device is going to have wear.
Selectable lockers are not meant for the street (unless traction is a serious issue) they are made for get maximum traction off road. Limited slip diffs are more street friendly ie you can make 'U' Turns without hopping all over the place.
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Originally Posted by 02Taco
So you see zero reason in having a locker because they have parts that will wear out eventually? Do you not want AC because it might run out of freon?
Any mechanical device is going to have wear.
Selectable lockers are not meant for the street (unless traction is a serious issue) they are made for get maximum traction off road. Limited slip diffs are more street friendly ie you can make 'U' Turns without hopping all over the place.
Any mechanical device is going to have wear.
Selectable lockers are not meant for the street (unless traction is a serious issue) they are made for get maximum traction off road. Limited slip diffs are more street friendly ie you can make 'U' Turns without hopping all over the place.
