CDL Question
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From: Windsor, Colorado
Originally Posted by mnmwhit
Once you get a CDL it will be like admitting you are for hire. The the DOT man will want to see your health and physical card and long form certificate. Then are you going to register you truck commercialy?
The cops in your area might not care, Try a Federal DOT officer. Some are easy going, but most of the ones I have dealt with are not. If you have a CDL at least you are legal to drive the vehicle you are driving. The key is "not for hire" as long as your not hauling for hire you dont need anything more than your normal registration. If you are out of state and they decide you need a trip permit that is easily fixed at the scale or port of entry.
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Originally Posted by mnmwhit
I have a CDL and I am in Law Enforcement. Once you get a CDL it will be like admitting you are for hire.
Last edited by tex25025; Jan 29, 2008 at 01:03 PM.
Laughing Gas
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From: North Pole Alaska
That is the point exactly. We can not speak to his issue. We do not know where he is, where he goes, what he hauls. It will make a big difference state to state. My truck and fifth wheel travel trailer weighs more than 26,000 loaded.
Originally Posted by tex25025
That depends on what type of class of CDL you get or if the state that you are hauling in has a temporary permit for you to carry that load that expires within a certain time period. There are alot of ways to get the necessary documents without the extreme consequence that you are hinting at. It veries between state to state though what exemptions or qualifications that you need to have. There is no blanket answer. However, the base requirement is usually 26,001 lbs or over(it makes no mention of for hire or just hauling for recreational use) and if your hauling for over a specific distance(which I do for horse shows all the time), it by no means means that you are for hire, you could be doing this for your own hobby or what not. You have to do other applications to qualify for "for hire" status, atleast in the two states that I have lived in and in the states that I travel in consistantly.
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Originally Posted by mnmwhit
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Originally Posted by mudmaker
The OP ask if he needed a cdl. It just comes down to how a DOT officer views his use. As easy as a CDL is to get he might as well have one.
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Originally Posted by tex25025
I wouldn't go by that at all. You might be talking to someone that is really lax about what he hauls, but then you might be pulled over by a person that is gungho about upholding the law. For instances, here you don't have to have tags on your trailers unless you go out of state(even then states are supposed to observe other state laws when it comes to DOT regulations) however, I cover my butt in that regard just keep from giving them one more reason to pull me over. I would vote to get a CDL as well, they are fairly easy(which is kinda scary because alot of people don't have any business hauling those types of loads) and it just covers your butt.
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Originally Posted by mnmwhit
Your vote matters!!!
I didn't know we were holding an election
I vote for Oliver North
I didn't know we were holding an election
I vote for Oliver North
Last edited by tex25025; Jan 29, 2008 at 09:40 PM.
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Thanks for all the replys guys. Just to clarify, I am a landscape and irrigation contractor in north Florida and sometimes travel to south florida to pick up large palms. So far I've just been using my 10,000# trailer so I know I'm not over 26,000#, but I'd eventually like to get a 10 ton gooseneck so I can haul more at a time and also haul my Bobcat along with some trees for local installations, then I'd be over 26,000#, thats why I asked about the CDL. Sorry for another question, but who is required to stop at the weight stations? I've never stopped with my 10,000# trailer loaded down with palms and have never had a problem. Thanks again for all the replys.
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From: Blairsville,Ga
Originally Posted by Black450
who is required to stop at the weight stations? I've never stopped with my 10,000# trailer loaded down with palms and have never had a problem. Thanks again for all the replys.
on state and US roads all trucks and trailers,even pickups
on interstate all loaded commercial registered trucks
I have also never stopped on interstate scales even with my backhoe behind,but have talked to people who have been stopped for not going through scales
guess it boils down to the officer watching
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From: SW Washington coast
I would vote for getting a CDL being as how you are using the equipment in a commercial venture ... If you were just hauling your private 5th wheel or trailer and not doing any business of a commercial nature then I would say "maybe not" ...
You might be considered "for hire" because you have a business that utilizes the particular vehicles and equipment that "might" be regulated by DOT ...
You might be considered "for hire" because you have a business that utilizes the particular vehicles and equipment that "might" be regulated by DOT ...
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From: North Pole Alaska
Yep sounds like a election campaign to me. My you are sensitive for a guy that likes to argue about everything.
Originally Posted by tex25025
Ok, lets see if I have the count correct, that is 3 false statements that you have said about me in the last 2 weeks, and now we have an ad hominem fallacy to your tally(to let you know that isn't a good thing). Your on a role man. I do want to add that given that fact that you had accused me of being childish, you are the only one that has actually attacked my character, the only thing that I have done is countered your points with my own(which is the logical thing to do), so you might want to reconsider who is being childish here. If you find issues with what I have said please mention them, attacking my character is irrelevant, fallacious and childish.
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From: SE. MA
anything over 10,000 pounds requires a medical card, anything over 26,000 pounds requires a class b cdl, you may be required to get a class c cdl in your case?I would just call the dmv or stop in at the weigh station (unloaded of course ) and ask those guys will help you out!
(this is for comercial purposes )
(this is for comercial purposes )
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Originally Posted by mnmwhit
Yep sounds like a election campaign to me. My you are sensitive for a guy that likes to argue about everything.