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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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bad brakes

my brakes have been acting up lately. I replaced the master cyclinder, no change. the first brake application opperates normally. applications after that brake pedal is very firm requiring a large effort to get braking action. have checked vaccum booster and it appears to be normal. all brakes have been bled. appears to be no fluid leaks. problem is quickly getting worse. i am thinking a bad brake booster. is there a test to definitly determine a bad booster. ideas please!
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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a bad booster will give you a hard pedal,a bad vacuum leak will do the same but if it's a gas engine it would really run bad
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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The vacuum booster could have a leak that won't cause the engine to run rough, due to the check valve.

It sounds to me like it is the brake vacuum booster that is bad. You get enough vacuum assist for one application of the brakes.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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The vacuum booster could have a leak that won't cause the engine to run rough, due to the check valve.

It sounds to me like it is the brake vacuum booster that is bad. You get enough vacuum assist for one application of the brakes.
that would be my first guess,I just brought up vacuum leak not knowing how the engine run
 
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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thanks, i forgot to mention this is on a 97 7.3 diesel
 
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I guess another possability could be a failing vacuum pump
 
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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Yes, that would also be a culprit on a diesel.

Or...did the 97's have hydroboost?
 
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 10:05 AM
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it is a bad vaccum pump. had this happen before. you can take the vacuum line off the booster and hook a gauge to it.

With the engine running at normal operating temperature, the vacuum pressure should be 57-70 kPa (17-21 in-Hg). Once the engine is stopped, the pressure should not drop more than 3.4 kPa (1 in-Hg) after one minute
 
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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Yes, that would also be a culprit on a diesel.

Or...did the 97's have hydroboost?
good point, although I have worked on many diesels with vacuum assist I think ford does have hydraboost on most heavier trucks since probly the 80s
 
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in 1997 ford still used a vacuum pump
 
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